Help!! Ex soldier told he's not entitled to benefits. WHATTTT!!!!!!

mardigrasgirl

skintandscared wrote: »

But what's there to stop him getting another job? How old is he?

There is nothing stopping him from getting another job apart from the fact there aren't many jobs going. He is availbe for work, and any kind of work.

mardigrasgirl

cockaleekee wrote: »

I have given you the information you asked for, and even gone into detail as to how he should set up his claim. You've not thanked or acknowledged this information once

My apologies, thank you so much for your advise and your post. It is very much appreciate.. I will pass all information onto my brother-in-law who will also find it very useful.. Thanks again for taking the time out to post.

skintandscared_2

I'm sorry but I'm not judging anyone. I am merely going on the facts you have posted. Your brother in law has not been abandoned or left destitute. He is being paid a NET pension of £725 a month. How is that not better than £71 a week JSA?!

Probably of far more use to him would be to post a statement of affairs on the debtfreewannabe board, to see where he could perhaps cut down spending (maybe expensive mobile contract or sky TV?) to help him while he looks for another job.

He is younger than me and still has a good 20 years employment in him. I wish him the best of luck in finding another full time job.

mardigrasgirl

McKneff wrote: »

Would selling the house help, he wouldnt have a mortgage payment.

Why is he paying £17 a week to his son, he should be paying it to his sons mother, its maintenance. The first thing to do is reduce this payment drastically, he just cant afford it.

Did he get a pay off from the Army, does he have no savings from that.

To correct my post, £17 is paid to his sons mother. As in my posts, I mentioned he has a pension and he had a lump sum, which he spent on his house and a car.

gingerdad

mardigrasgirl wrote: »

There is nothing stopping him from getting another job apart from the fact there aren't many jobs going. He is availbe for work, and any kind of work.

plenty of jobs out there maybe minimum wage but that would give him nearly 20k a year

d123

patman99 wrote: »

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I doubt after a year, the DWP would call it asset deprivation. After all, if they can go back that far, what's to stop them going back to the day you left school and count that deposit you put on a house as 'deprivation of assets'.
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It isn't quite the same, DWP will know he finished his 25 years 12 months ago and probably know the lump sums are quite substantial, the resettlement grant alone can be into the thousands (£10200 maximum IIRC is the statutory maximum, not everyone gets the max though).

So hypothetically, an ex-soldier goes into the JC and they say where's your £20k lump sum? He says "bought a car and furniture" they say where's the settlement grant? He says "bought a car and furniture". It wouldn't be unrealistic for them to decide to dig deeper into the capital that is now allegedly gone.

Many people would think £20k or £30k spent in a year could be deprivation. Just for a start, what happened to all his furniture he would have had in his Army accommodation?

mardigrasgirl

skintandscared wrote: »

I'm sorry but I'm not judging anyone. I am merely going on the facts you have posted. Your brother in law has not been abandoned or left destitute. He is being paid a NET pension of £725 a month. How is that not better than £71 a week JSA?!

Probably of far more use to him would be to post a statement of affairs on the debtfreewannabe board, to see where he could perhaps cut down spending (maybe expensive mobile contract or sky TV?) to help him while he looks for another job.

He is younger than me and still has a good 20 years employment in him. I wish him the best of luck in finding another full time job.

Thank you. I do hope he doesn't have to wait too long for employment.

AP007

mardigrasgirl wrote: »

He doesn't have a job, his only income is his army pension of £725 a month. He has no savings and I don't know how much capital he owes on his mortgage.

£725 is a LOT more than any JSA he would be entitled to if any and he is not as he has an income sorry to say.

Carpi09

I am unexperienced in this field, only being 23 but would like to learn hence my reply below....

I know most people will disagree with this and I'm not debating any of the responses as I agree but for debate, why should his pension have any relevance?

Also, how would the JC know if he has x amount of savings?

Surely, this guy has rightly earned his pension and i dont think its fair that he is not allowed because he has a pension, he should not be discounted from JSA when the job centre is there to help the unemployed find another job? If it was me, I would want help to find another job, it's not just about the money... Or is he entitled to help but not just the money?

Like i said, i am trying to develop my knowledge, not trying to cause any argument! Have I got this completely wrong?

d123

Carpi09 wrote: »

I am unexperienced in this field, only being 23 but would like to learn hence my reply below....

I know most people will disagree with this and I'm not debating any of the responses as I agree but for debate, why should his pension have any relevance?

Also, how would the JC know if he has x amount of savings?

Surely, this guy has rightly earned his pension and i dont think its fair that he is not allowed because he has a pension, he should not be discounted from JSA when the job centre is there to help the unemployed find another job? If it was me, I would want help to find another job, it's not just about the money... Or is he entitled to help but not just the money?

Like i said, i am trying to develop my knowledge, not trying to cause any argument! Have I got this completely wrong?

JSA (IB) is means tested, so having other income or capital matters, with regard to how the JC would know? They can ask for Bank statements and are connected to HMRC as well, so any money anywhere will invariably come to light (well, I suppose unless you dig a hole and bury it in the back garden).

Out of work benefits are supposed to be a safety net, not something to top up a reasonably significant income a person might already earn.

He would be entitled to all the help a JC can offer, just not the money, as he already has enough of his own (in the governments eyes, at least).