Yellow lines

I-LOV-MONEY

Can someone tell me please, if there is a plate showing parking restrictions on a road, but there are no yellow lines, faded or otherwise, does this invalidate the sign?

Tilt

Without actually seeing the sign it would be impossible to say. Can you post up an image or at least state exactly what the sign says and the background colour.

Coupon-mad

I-LOV-MONEY wrote: »

Can someone tell me please, if there is a plate showing parking restrictions on a road, but there are no yellow lines, faded or otherwise, does this invalidate the sign?

Not necessarily. In some places where there are cobbled streets/listed buildings, in quaint little villages and the like, a Council can get special authorisation to use signs but no lines (apparently 'cos they is ugly!).

Half_way

Coupon-mad wrote: »

(apparently 'cos they is ugly!).

whats that the signs, the lines, or the council / comitee members?

Coupon-mad

Half_way wrote: »

whats that the signs, the lines, or the council / comitee members?

Monstrous carbuncles the lot of 'em! :rotfl:

I-LOV-MONEY

Tilt wrote: »

Without actually seeing the sign it would be impossible to say. Can you post up an image or at least state exactly what the sign says and the background colour.

Coupon-mad wrote: »

Not necessarily. In some places where there are cobbled streets/listed buildings, in quaint little villages and the like, a Council can get special authorisation to use signs but no lines (apparently 'cos they is ugly!).

I have to go and check it out to be sure (that there are no lines there). However it is a standard sign, with a yellow background and black letters.


It is on the main A5 road, in the area of LB Barnet. Cars seem to park there, which is what made me wonder about it.

(This is not the actual sign, but one I have copied from Google images).

I-LOV-MONEY

I have now had an opportunity to recheck the sign and the road. The sign says Mon-Sat 9am - 5pm. However the lines may have been on the road at one time, but are extremely faded. It is difficult to see as there is nowhere to stop! It would seem obvious that the CEOs are not enforcing this stretch of road.

I-LOV-MONEY

So is anybody going to be able to give me specific advice as to whether the yellow sign is invalid if there are no visible yellow lines on the road?

Thanks.

Orford

The definitive answer would be in the Traffic Regulation Order for that stretch of road.

However while the TRO lays down what the restrictions are these must be reflected in the road markings and signage in oreder to inform the motorist what restrictions are in place.

A SYL alerts the motorist that some restrictions apply and the timeplate details exactly what they are.

Without a SYL why would you bother to look for a timeplate. Equally without a SYL the motorist cannot be sure which part of the road the timeplate refers to.

Half_way

I-LOV-MONEY wrote: »

So is anybody going to be able to give me specific advice as to whether the yellow sign is invalid if there are no visible yellow lines on the road?

Thanks.

to get more specific help, more information required - especialy photos and scans of your tickets/letters with all personal details editied out.

I-LOV-MONEY

Half_way wrote: »

to get more specific help, more information required - especialy photos and scans of your tickets/letters with all personal details editied out.

The good news is that I haven't been ticketed there. It was just an observation.

The area is about six car lengths long, and the sign is in the middle of the stretch. You would almost certainly notice it.