Is Halal meat ethical?

Fire_Fox

Devon_Sailor wrote: »

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Halal is terribly inhumane...to slit something's throat and then let it bleed to death slowly and in agony....well, that too seems a very simple answer to your question.

Regards,

D_S

Is that what happens in the UK or is that what the animal rights brigade claim happens? Did you read the thread?

Fire_Fox

sillybilly2011 wrote: »

Why should we be eating meat anyway?

I do not see the difference with killing my pet cat and eating it than eating meat from a local store.

I have gave up meat a few years ago when i actually sat down and thought about how cruel it is.

It is so hard to avoid though, animal testing for drugs, leather clothes and sofas etc

It is just everywhere!!

Humans evolved eating meat especially fish and seafood, and we get various essential nutrients from it that are not in other natural wholefoods. If an animal dies for food I'd rather all the parts were used one way or another.

Doesn't your cat eat meat products?

terra_ferma

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

When in Rome do as the Romans do. If you live in this land do not expect us to make allowances for your supposed dietry requirements.

Who is US? You sound like a self-appointed representative of the 'genuine' British race.
You assume that all the muslim people in this country are foreigners, and either willingly or out of ignorance ignore those who were born here and are British citizens, the same as (I assume) you are.

Devon_Sailor

Fire_Fox wrote: »

Is that what happens in the UK or is that what the animal rights brigade claim happens? Did you read the thread?

Thank you for your unnecessarily patronising reply. I was talking about the practice of Halal in general terms, having been in a position to witness it being carried out both in the UK and in Arab nation states. I dislike both versions immensely.

No, as I come from a farming family im generally speaking not the sort of person the "animal rights brigade" chooses to enlist in their more extreme activities. They tend to hate farmers on principle despite the way most of them treat their animals better than their own family when times are tough!

Finally, yes I do read entire threads before replying. I would love to hear about your own personal experience and background on the issue - it must be far superior to my own, obviously, for you to treat other posters with such disdain.

Next?

D_S

terra_ferma

Devon_Sailor wrote: »

Thank you for your unnecessarily patronising reply. I was talking about the practice of Halal in general terms, having been in a position to witness it being carried out both in the UK and in Arab nation states. I dislike both versions immensely.

No, as I come from a farming family im generally speaking not the sort of person the "animal rights brigade" chooses to enlist in their more extreme activities. They tend to hate farmers on principle despite the way most of them treat their animals better than their own family when times are tough!

Finally, yes I do read entire threads before replying. I would love to hear about your own personal experience and background on the issue - it must be far superior to my own, obviously, for you to treat other posters with such disdain.

Next?

D_S

I've never assisted to either, but I was under the impression that western styles can be as cruel as halal.
I'd be interested to hear why halal slaughtering to be worse than a commercial abattoir one (be graphic if you have to, it's only right that if we eat meat we face-up to how it gets to our plate...).

It would be good to add other informed opinions to this thread, as many people, like me, can only go by the information that is available through the media.

sharnad

Devon_Sailor wrote: »

blizeH wrote: »

I always try to eat free range/organic meat where possible, and the horse meat 'scandal' has prompted me to re-think what I eat (purely because it's shocking how poorly the meat industry is regulated, and I find it utterly depressing how the media could not give a f**k about how humanely animals are treated, yet cause a massive fuss over this) and I want to ensure what I eat is as ethically sourced as possible.
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To be honest, if you are buying organic and local produce, then you haven't got anything to worry about. The horse "scandal" is confined primarily to the cheap/frozen end of the market, where suppliers have outsourced to poorly regulated European contractors.

The UK has some of the highest animal welfare and production standards in the world, bar none. Buy British (look for the Red Tractor or UK assurance marks), and you won't find horse. Simple.

Halal is terribly inhumane...to slit something's throat and then let it bleed to death slowly and in agony....well, that too seems a very simple answer to your question.

Regards,

D_S

its quick and painless and more humane than abbatoirs

sharnad

Enterprise_1701C wrote: »

We eat meat because we were designed to do so, that is where we traditionally get a lot of our nutrition from.

When in Rome do as the Romans do. If you live in this land do not expect us to make allowances for your supposed dietry requirements.

I learned to kill chickens when I was young, I have seen what goes on in a slaughterhouse. I have also seen the inside of a henhouse after a fox has had its fun in it.

I personally think there should be one recognised halal slaghterhouse in this country, that should be enough for the approximately 5% of the population who claim to be muslim That meat should be isolated and clearly marked to allow people to avoid buying it, same way muslim people want to avoid buying non-halal meat. Any halal meat imported should also be clearly marked as so.

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do you think that one place could slaughter enough meat for thee million pople and how ver man non muslims choose to eat halal meat