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Cameron looking to change benefit system for immigrants

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  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Free Loaders is not a swear word.
    Politicians who claim an ipad on expenses days before pleading guilty to perverting the course of justice and standing down. Now that IS a swear word.

    Perhaps he wants it for angry bird, coz he aint going to be very happy.;)
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  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Depends on whether it is legal entry. I guess if you throw away your papers that must be questionable.

    I agree but that's not always for the immigration officer to decide.

    One of the things the NHS scandal teaches us is that it's very dangerous to put large amounts of power in the hands of state employees.
  • Graham_Devon
    Graham_Devon Posts: 58,560 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
    I agree but that's not always for the immigration officer to decide.

    One of the things the NHS scandal teaches us is that it's very dangerous to put large amounts of power in the hands of state employees.

    Wouldn't the immigration officer(s) decide that in Aus?
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    Wouldn't the immigration officer(s) decide that in Aus?

    No idea.

    I'm not sure that the Aussie migration system for refugees is one to be emulated. We aren't very nice to them.
  • olly300
    olly300 Posts: 14,738 Forumite
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    To change the benefits system for EU immigrants it needs to be changed for UK resident citizens.

    It's not that hard - for example just ensuring that children actually are in the country with their working parent before that parent can claim child benefit.

    Unfortunately the UK government (of all distinctions) is absolutely useless in interpreting EU directives or ensuring only residents benefit from the welfare state.
    I'm not cynical I'm realistic :p

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  • Generali wrote: »
    No idea.

    I'm not sure that the Aussie migration system for refugees is one to be emulated. We aren't very nice to them.


    Don't know sounds ideal.;)
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

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  • DaddyBear
    DaddyBear Posts: 1,208 Forumite
    so yet again,
    Rich foreigners are fine.
    Lazy local people are fine
    and !!!!!!!!!!s are fine so long as they were elected.

    The !!!!ing swear filter on this !!!!ing forum seems to have gone !!!!ing haywire.
  • Generali
    Generali Posts: 36,411 Forumite
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    DaddyBear wrote: »
    The !!!!ing swear filter on this !!!!ing forum seems to have gone !!!!ing haywire.

    I think there's quite a broad definition of swearing, for example !!!!, !!!! and !!!! are all included as swear words whereas Arsenal isn't.
  • Fella
    Fella Posts: 7,921 Forumite
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    Cameron & Osborne have plenty of form for saying lots & doing little. "Mr Cameron has said that he wants to reform the system" sounds awfully like a mild sop to people worried about immigration with nothing much necessarily behind it. We'll see.
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
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    Generali wrote: »
    Hmm, I still have my doubts.

    Surely unfettered access to justice is one of the things that keeps a democracy democratic, no? Surely someone who migrates to a country legally and is then deported illegally should have some right of appeal. There shouldn't be endless and taxpayer funded appeals I agree.

    I guess it depends on the definition.

    My position on this pretty much mirrors yours Gen, agree with all the rest but not the position on justice. However I have heard that lately Legal Aid has been tightened for a lot of reasons - nothing to do with immigrants. If this is part of the whole cutting of legal aid issue I'd have less problem with it. I don't think the high profile Abu Qatada case helps either. I can't really rationalise my reasoning here - I think legal aid access is right but not in cases like that:o.
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