Boles balks at Bulgarians

wotsthat

CLAPTON wrote: »

The EU had a provision to delay the free movement of people from these two countries which the UK chose to exercise

there is no EU provision available to extend it.

We could just do it unilaterally as a sovereign nation if it really is going to be the problem as portrayed by the right. The interpretation could then be tested trough the European courts - another 15 years and we'd have an opinion.

EU membership doesn't have to equal chemical castration.

Trouble is decent reporters are expensive but 'opinion formers' (rent a gobs) are cheap. The Daily Mail today showed the visa queue at the British Embassy in Sofia - appeared to be massively long and full of foreigners - it's not reporting - it's selling a message and making us look like uninformed and weak minded bigots.

Mr._Pricklepants

wotsthat wrote: »

The Daily Mail today showed the visa queue at the British Embassy in Sofia - appeared to be massively long and full of foreigners - it's not reporting - it's selling a message

A message willingly lapped up by forum bigots like sampong, the devon&rewired conjoined twins, foxy et al...

It's a sad state of affairs

DaddyBear

angrypirate wrote: »

There is nothing they can do about EU immigration other than offer us a referendum on EU where we can opt to leave. This will allow the government to then put limits on immigration from the Eurozone. They are controlling immigration more from outside of the EU, but its a long slow process and change doesnt happen overnight.

They could do a lot about EU immigration. Limiting benefits to those who have been resident for more than 5 years would take out the !!!!!!!!!!s immediately.

gadgetmind

CLAPTON wrote: »

every country in the world treats their own citizens differently to foreigners

And do you think this is something we should be endorsing or trying to move away from?

kabayiri

What's the point in having an open invite to large numbers of people seeking a better life if you are struggling to provide accommodation already?

I argue for a balanced and sustainable policy, that's all. I'm not sure a policy driven by European ideology meets these criteria.

We all know that economic migrants will flock to what they perceive are centres of wealth and employment. It's a rational choice.

How do we prevent these people being exploited? There is a big and growing issue with so-called 'beds in sheds', and it will only get worse short term.

I would only emigrate if I had accommodation arranged before my move, and an employment plan in place. Is that an unreasonable viewpoint for any potential migrant?

Sampong

Mr._Pricklepants wrote: »

A message willingly lapped up by forum bigots like sampong, the devon&rewired conjoined twins, foxy et al...

It's a sad state of affairs

I think I will just point out one more time that it is not bigoted or racist to want a sensible and balanced immigration policy - I mention this for the benefit of anyone with any common sense - not facists like you who continually use those words to describe anyone discussing issues surrounding immigration.

Sampong

Well what do you know, another defection to UKIP, this time from Labour as she accepts that immigration is a "taboo" subject.

http://nigelfaragemep.co.uk/pages/posts/daughter-of-labour-chairman-joins-ukip-238.php

ruggedtoast

StevieJ wrote: »

Watching Newsnight last night it appears that our country is one of the backers for Turkey to join the EU, I am not sure how that that squares with all this anti immigration bluster from the govt? Just done a Google,



http://www.number10.gov.uk/news/pm-backs-turkeys-eu-bid/

UK governments, especially conservative ones have always been opposed to the idea of "ever closer union" resulting in an EU superstate.

Support for Turkish entry has always been seen in Whitehall as a good way of weakening the Franco-German steamroller and providing a large pro-UK country that would prevent British isolation and hopefully stop us being marginalised in the bloc.

Not only has this annoyed the French mightily it has had the added plus of stalling meaningful EU integration for a decade while everyone wrangles over Turkey. Its also had the added bonus of making the UK look pragmatic, modern and non racist, partly to the Arab world and also to the yanks, who are desperate for Turkey to be in the EU and act as a NATO bulwark against Muslim Asia.

I suspect we will probably dump the Turks like a mangy carpet the moment being friends with them isnt in our interests.

CLAPTON

gadgetmind wrote: »

And do you think this is something we should be endorsing or trying to move away from?

It is a fact broadly supported by the majority of the people in countries.

Personally I support the idea that an immigrant should support the host countries general approach to living before being afforded full citizen status

StevieJ

It is almost like the Windrush days

The Prime Minister will next week visit India to tell prospective students that Britain will be “incredibly welcoming” to them if they come to this country to study and work.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/9868821/Immigration-David-Cameron-urges-Indians-to-come-to-welcoming-Britain.html