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No Junk Mail sticker ignored by political parties

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  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    As many dictionaries define mail as letters, packages or materials sent through or delivered my means of the postal system, then yes, if takeaway menus are delivered by a postman/woman, they should be classed as mail.




    would they? do they fall under the postal services act then?
  • SuperHan
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    I live in a building that has controlled access. Royal Mail have an access fob, so I assume it is they who delivery the countless takeaway menus and other junk mail items that come through my post box. I also get 'letters' in envelopes addressed to "the Householder" with my address on it, that are most definitely not solicited, as well as letters from TalkTalk that don't even have my address, but are addressed to the householder, 15 superfast broadband street, etc. Again, this is unsolicited. If a company has managed to get hold of my name and address, chances are I have provided it to them in some form, making the mail solicited. Anything nameless or addressless coming through my letterbox should be classed as unsolicited mail.
  • would they? do they fall under the postal services act then?

    Why do you always insist on changing the direction of a discussion when it appears not to be going in your favour?

    Your earlier question made no mention whatsoever of the PSA did it?
    All you asked was
    "so do you define a takeaway menu as mail?"
    and not "does the postal services act define a takeaway menu as mail?"
  • custardy
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    How is a postman supposed to know what is solicited and what isn't?
    Why do you always insist on changing the direction of a discussion when it appears not to be going in your favour?

    Your earlier question made no mention whatsoever of the PSA did it?
    All you asked was

    and not "does the postal services act define a takeaway menu as mail?"

    I havent changed any direction
    this course of discussion came from this post.
    given unaddressed items can be opted out from RM,it only leaves mail covered by the PSA
  • custardy
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    SuperHan wrote: »
    I live in a building that has controlled access. Royal Mail have an access fob, so I assume it is they who delivery the countless takeaway menus and other junk mail items that come through my post box. I also get 'letters' in envelopes addressed to "the Householder" with my address on it, that are most definitely not solicited, as well as letters from TalkTalk that don't even have my address, but are addressed to the householder, 15 superfast broadband street, etc. Again, this is unsolicited. If a company has managed to get hold of my name and address, chances are I have provided it to them in some form, making the mail solicited. Anything nameless or addressless coming through my letterbox should be classed as unsolicited mail.

    you will get 0 to 6 items a week from RM
    all of which can be opted out from
    the idea of your stair being somehow impenetrable to leaflet distribution companies is unlikely
  • marleyboy
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    I dont think Postmen go around delivering Takeaway menus, moreso I can imagine any postman would be only too happy to rid their sack of any junk mail.

    Particularly those Virgin posts addressed to the homeowner, I imagine they have one for virtually every address. As above, junk mail posted from RM can be opted out of, this wont stop non RM deliveries of junk mail, something we cannot blame RM for.

    Even those posted by RM, we cannot blame the postman for delivering, I cannot imagine any postman is eager to fill his sack with junk mail to weigh him down and proceed to post such junk in each and every letter box he comes across.

    If a letter is addressed, a postman is paid to deliver it and not read its contents just in case its junk. Else postmen up and down the Country, would be moonlighting for a little extra cash in hand, by alternating as a leaflet\menu distributor during his rounds.
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  • Just bin it and worry about other things in life.

    I can't believe someone would waste so much time on such a non-issue.
  • ThumbRemote
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    custardy wrote: »
    So that isnt a letter then,is it?
    Its unaddressed door2doors, so on par with the takeaway menus

    It comes in an envelope and contains a sheet of text; I'd class it as a letter.

    Irrespective, both are items of mail as they are delivered to me. It doesn't matter who does the delivering, they both arrive the same way via the letterbox.
  • It is a very blurred line. I used to canvass for a political party. During the 2010 election I met a lady with a "no junk mail" sticker who complained that she wasn't getting our monthly newsletters explaining what the councillors were doing.

    I think you are being a little bit oversensitive. It is a matter of opinion whether a political leaflet constitutes junk mail. I can see why you think it is pointless faff to be binned, but it also serves a legitimate purpose because most people want to know what their councillors and other elected representatives are doing.
  • Paul_Varjak
    Paul_Varjak Posts: 4,627 Forumite
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    Some years ago, our local Council started a Council magazine, delivered to all households within the County. In the very first edition of that magazine, it told residents how to opt out of junk mail.

    So, I rang the local Council and said I would like to opt out of your magazine please. There reply was I could not because it contains information useful to me! I said I know it does - it tells me how to opt out of junk mail and I want to opt out of the Council's junk mail, saying I would read it on-line.

    They just said they had no mechanism for residents to opt out. I think others must have complained as they quickly implemented such a mechanism!!!
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