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MP£/WMA volume control
grizzly1911
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Just swapped phones to a new (to me) android. I use it as an MP3/music player.
The new phone seems more sensitive to volume, some tracks needing adjustment that weren't apparent on the old phone.
Most are encoded at 128k but a few are at 192k but that doesn't have any bearing on the high or low volume.
Is relative volume something that is "encoded" when the original tracks were laid down in digital format?
They are all genuine purchases.
Just curious.
The new phone seems more sensitive to volume, some tracks needing adjustment that weren't apparent on the old phone.
Most are encoded at 128k but a few are at 192k but that doesn't have any bearing on the high or low volume.
Is relative volume something that is "encoded" when the original tracks were laid down in digital format?
They are all genuine purchases.
Just curious.
"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
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You can use a utility called mp3gain to adjust the tracks to be all the same volume, though personally I find it makes them all too quiet.
I'm guessing the tracks that are newer recordings are the ones that seem louder... Congratulations, you are another victim of the Loudness War.0 -
You can use a utility called mp3gain to adjust the tracks to be all the same volume, though personally I find it makes them all too quiet.
I'm guessing the tracks that are newer recordings are the ones that seem louder... Congratulations, you are another victim of the Loudness War.
Thanks that is interesting.
I hadn't particularly registered the age of the recording.
I certainly notice it on a Santana album and one from Thin Lizzy which were purchased early on in the CD history. Also on a Bad Co. album but I am not sure when that was produced but that just seems s;lightly less dynamic.
I do have Power Amp as an application. This has an additional "preamp volume" control. If this is too high on some stuff it will distort on bass levels. The likes of Nickle back or even Alison Krauss. I wonder if this is to do with gain from compression.
I do have an eclectic mix and will forensically think about the relative age of tracks - for a bit anyway.
Listening to an album isn't a problem and most of the time it is fine it is just the odd track on shuffle that hilights the issue."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
Another vote for MP3 gain.
This does loudness analysis and then sets a gain setting in the file to make it "sound" a standard loudness.
You can find out how it does it or accept it does and that it is clever !
iTunes seems to do something similar (probably by having a volume setting for each track rather than modification to the file) so was your previous phone some kind of iPhone ?0 -
Im_just_careful wrote: »Another vote for MP3 gain.
This does loudness analysis and then sets a gain setting in the file to make it "sound" a standard loudness.
You can find out how it does it or accept it does and that it is clever !
iTunes seems to do something similar (probably by having a volume setting for each track rather than modification to the file) so was your previous phone some kind of iPhone ?
No a Samsung.
Is it possible to just try the mp3 gain as a test, or at least toggle it off and on, or is it that once installed that is it?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
MP3Gain just adds a value to each track's metadata specifying the level at which it should play. It doesn't adjust the relative levels of different parts of the same track: there are programs that do this, but they require the track to be recoded. MP3Gain is good for reducing the overall level of tracks that were over-recorded and distorted and for normalising the volume level of all the tracks in a playlist so you don't have to keep adjusting the volume. Its settings can be removed at the click of a button.
If you use Foobar2000 music player, its ReplayGain function works in the same way.0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »Is it possible to just try the mp3 gain as a test, or at least toggle it off and on, or is it that once installed that is it?
I think you just run the MP3s through MP3Gain, to create new MP3 files with normalised volume levels. So you can keep the original files as well as the new ones if you like...0 -
MP3Gain modifies your existing MP3s. It does not change the audio data, it does not re-encode them and it does not cause any quality reduction. It just sets a flag at the start of the file that tells your player "hey, this MP3 is a bit louder than most, you need to turn it down by this much".
Once you do this, every computer and every device you play that MP3 on will play it at the new volume.
You can run mp3gain a second time and tell it to remove this flag, then you will get your original volume back. Once again there is no quality loss or re-encoding involved.0 -
I think you just run the MP3s through MP3Gain, to create new MP3 files with normalised volume levels. So you can keep the original files as well as the new ones if you like...
Sorry, there is no such option in MP3Gain. There is an application called, confusingly, MP3Gain PRO which might do this, but the package has no connection with the original MP3Gain and is disavowed by the author of MP3Gain - see Sourceforge.
Lum is quite correct.0
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