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Not Paying Down Deficit-Cons Think Voters Cant Understand Sums

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  • spacey2012
    spacey2012 Posts: 5,836 Forumite
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    Currency starts at zero.
    Every pound printed or spent is a negative.

    Thats how Fiscal Works, money is Debt.
    Why worry, let those who invented the system worry about how much debt they create.
    Be happy...;)
  • This thread only goes to show how many don't understand deficit v debt. The op is completely in the dark and no doubt media inc the BBC will keep him that way.

    The Gov should have educated the nation on where we are folk think the spending cuts are to pay down the debt like the op many don't have a clue.
  • Masomnia
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    howee wrote: »
    This thread only goes to show how many don't understand deficit v debt. The op is completely in the dark and no doubt media inc the BBC will keep him that way.

    The Gov should have educated the nation on where we are folk think the spending cuts are to pay down the debt like the op many don't have a clue.

    To be fair the government's rhetoric isn't helping. 'Dealing with our debts' makes a better soundbite than 'Cutting the cyclically adjusted borrowing requirement'.
    “I could see that, if not actually disgruntled, he was far from being gruntled.” - P.G. Wodehouse
  • BobQ
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    Fella wrote: »
    Snitching would be doing something in secret. My actions were the opposite, openly posting my dislike for DLW's habit of using this board to vent his biased spleen. I also pointed out openly on here that I tried to get the mods to moderate him.

    I'm very happy to be open about the poster's I dislike, which would certainly include you. However your posts are mainly just dull, bitter & sometimes containing accusations that you are unable to backup when challenged, I.e. pathetic overall but not worth reporting.

    So the world we a much better place if we all went around telling others when we dislike them, do you do this with your neighbours, those you meet in the local pub? I know this is not the pub but politeness to those of different view costs nothing.

    It takes all sorts to make a world, and very few of us can resist the odd personal remark when we get annoyed by a post (extolling the blessed MT gets me going!), but I do find it irritating when someone) makes a factual post (as factual as a quote from the press can be) and others get abusive because they believe it is incorrect/leftwing/rightwing or whatever.

    If DLW had made abusive remarks in the past (Generali seemed to be quite worked up on this) then he is no doubt big enough to take it too, but as a general principle I see no benefit in telling people that you dislike them, calling them a moron, or whatever as if its some kind of sport. But that is just my opinion.
    Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.
  • Fella
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    BobQ wrote: »
    So the world we a much better place if we all went around telling others when we dislike them, do you do this with your neighbours, those you meet in the local pub? I know this is not the pub but politeness to those of different view costs nothing.

    Yes, honesty is a good thing. And yes I have no problem whatsoever with being honest & direct to people's faces.

    The big difference of course, is that in real life unlike on forums, far less people make snide little remarks such as those favoured by some people on here. As an example, I remember one poster implying I went to BNP meetings once. I very very much doubt that particular gutless little moron would have the guts to say anything like that to my face but the safe anonymity of a bulletin board is quite different.

    If thinking one way & acting another works for you then fine. Personally I'll continue to speak my mind.
  • Moby
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    Fella wrote: »
    Yes, honesty is a good thing. And yes I have no problem whatsoever with being honest & direct to people's faces.

    The big difference of course, is that in real life unlike on forums, far less people make snide little remarks such as those favoured by some people on here. As an example, I remember one poster implying I went to BNP meetings once. I very very much doubt that particular gutless little moron would have the guts to say anything like that to my face but the safe anonymity of a bulletin board is quite different.

    If thinking one way & acting another works for you then fine. Personally I'll continue to speak my mind.
    How do you know ? and again those words could very easily be turned around to you;)
  • Fella
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    Moby wrote: »
    How do you know ? and again those words could very easily be turned around to you;)

    Lol, thank you for admirably demonstrating exactly the snide little comments that gutless morons like you come out with from their nice safe anonymous PC :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
  • Thrugelmir
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    Moby wrote: »
    ...but that's where all the money went!

    More is paid out in welfare benefits than is received in income tax receipts?

    Who is suppose to pay the bill?
  • kabayiri
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    howee wrote: »
    This thread only goes to show how many don't understand deficit v debt. The op is completely in the dark and no doubt media inc the BBC will keep him that way.

    The Gov should have educated the nation on where we are folk think the spending cuts are to pay down the debt like the op many don't have a clue.

    Why invent and continuously use a term like deficit anyway?

    All I need to know is the deficit was £1trn last year and it now stands at £1.1trn (to make up figures).

    If I want to work out the growth rate I just do something called subtraction.

    Even better, the government should show a graph of debt over time. Most people understand it's a challenge getting to the top of the hill, but once there things start getting easier.

    I reckon they use the term deficit so that the intellectually challenged out there genuinely believe we only have to find £125bn.

    Smoke & mirrors & politicians eh.
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,469 Forumite
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    The deficit has gone up not down under this government - and Osborne has to borrow at astronomical levels to cover the mistakes he made by deliberately impoverishing the population - didnt he understand that outdated economic model cant possibly work in today's digital globalised world? Even the IMF have learned how foolish it is....

    ..ps and as for Clegg - still singing along, just when he was starting to improve in polls... I despair!

    You cannot "pay down" a deficit, although I don't expect you to understand why.
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