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What's with Vegan Subs when we can go Old Style?

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  • aimme13
    aimme13 Posts: 458 Forumite
    Hi,

    using up v chucking out is completely up to you.....once I decided to go vegan i couldnt physically eat anything that wasnt vegan (but I have kids who could eat up none vegan stuff!), however I am trying to only buy vegan toiletries but have a huge stash of products that I will not throw away and so I'm happy to use them up (could be some time!):-)

    I buy my wine from Sainsburys or Co-op as there own brands are labelled vegan. Its a bit of a pain as I'm sure so many wines are vegan but not labelled!! I havnt found the search apps any good for wine either.

    I always used to use ecover washing up liquid mainly as a local shop refilled the bottle. However when I fund out it was no longer vegan I stopped using it. Years later I went to some show where they were giving away free samples and i spoke to the guy there and he said it was something to do with the water they test in that there was some micro-insect things in the water so couldnt be classed as a vegan product?? (sorry that wasnt a very technical explanation) so in all honesty I would prob use now. I buy Co-op own as its vegan and I' happy with it.

    Sainsburys and Co-op label there own brands vegan so very useful.
  • aimme13 wrote: »

    I always used to use ecover washing up liquid mainly as a local shop refilled the bottle. However when I fund out it was no longer vegan I stopped using it. Years later I went to some show where they were giving away free samples and i spoke to the guy there and he said it was something to do with the water they test in that there was some micro-insect things in the water so couldnt be classed as a vegan product?? (sorry that wasnt a very technical explanation) so in all honesty I would prob use now. I buy Co-op own as its vegan and I' happy with it.

    Sainsburys and Co-op label there own brands vegan so very useful.


    The Ecover Camomile and Marigold washing up liquid contains milk whey, but the other versions don't, nor do any other products.

    The Daphnia (microscopic water flea) tests, combined with acquiring rabbit blood to test stain removal of blood (I can't imagine there's a commerical supplier of menstrual blood) basically means that the Vegan Society doesn't approve the products, as they regard zooplankton as animals, whereas legally, they aren't regarded as such legally, I guess partly because they can reproduce through parthenogenesis (asexually).
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  • I know quite a few vegans who like Veganomicon. I have Appetite for Reduction which has some nice, low fat recipes.

    You might want to join The Vegan Forum and Post Punk Kitchen Forum as it's helpful to talk to a lot of other vegans. PPK has a lot of recipes too.

    Nutritional yeast is a source of B12 which vegans have to supplement as they can get deficiencies. It has a cheesy nutty type of taste which is difficult to explain.:D The only way I liked it was sprinkled over hot pasta.

    I take sublingual B12 tablets a few times a week.

    Superdrug labels everything clearly so I buy most of my toiletries from there.

    You can get the vegan lists online for the various supermarkets, there are an awful lot of foods that are accidentally vegan.

    Barnivore lists vegan alcoholic drinks.Barnivore: your vegan wine, beer, and liquor guide
  • ragz_2
    ragz_2 Posts: 3,254 Forumite
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    Try not to eat too many soya products, soya can be very unhealthy (google it). I would avoid processed food and just eat plenty of veg, you can get quite far with soups, curries, veg chili etc and no reason why you can't have these for breakfast as brekkie is not often vegan friendly. Get enough healthy fats like olive or coconut oil (I buy mine bulk on ebay), put coconut milk in curries even coffee.

    Vegan 'replacement' foods are an expensive gimmick, IMO, and rarely healthy. Nature has provided her best foods in the simple wholesome way they were intended to be eaten...

    Seriously, soya products are rank!
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  • katholicos
    katholicos Posts: 2,658 Forumite

    I have a soya milk-maker so I won't have problems wasting money on buying cartons. I'd like to work out how to make a soya yoghurt tho' but I'm not sure how that will

    ).

    Please can you tell me where you got your soya milk maker from. I know milk can be made without using a designated soya milk maker, but i like gadgets.
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  • Have you tried your local ethnic shop for pulses spices and nuts. I find those a lot cheaper. Many Asian countries are veg/vegan so that is also where you would find coconut oil at a good price.
    Body products I tend to use are Original source which are vegan, or the co-op for house hold cleaners.
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  • dogstarheaven
    dogstarheaven Posts: 1,382 Forumite
    edited 3 February 2013 at 9:58PM
    ragz wrote: »
    Try not to eat too many soya products, soya can be very unhealthy (google it). I would avoid processed food and just eat plenty of veg, you can get quite far with soups, curries, veg chili etc and no reason why you can't have these for breakfast as brekkie is not often vegan friendly. Get enough healthy fats like olive or coconut oil (I buy mine bulk on ebay), put coconut milk in curries even coffee. as i said before, I'm not interested in meat replacements and i always cook from scratch. For brekkie tho' I will have porridge made with water (not tried with soya, and really unsure about coconut milk on cereal or in tea (like strong coffee black :o
    http://www.auravita.com/product/Savant-SoyaBella-Soya-Milk-Maker.SADI11880.html?RefId=220&adid=SADI11880 it looks more like a water filter than this chrome kettle version, but has very similar features and structure. bought from HK about 8 years ago for about £200+. Nowadays, you can pick them up for about £50 if you go to a big Asian store (most cities with a high Asian population will have one or two stores that will stock this). It's a pain to clean but it's well worth every penny as it works out about 17p per 1.3 litre inc. elec, water and beans - so much nicer than carton milk anyday!
    katholicos wrote: »
    Please can you tell me where you got your soya milk maker from. I know milk can be made without using a designated soya milk maker, but i like gadgets.
    415SanFran wrote: »
    Have you tried your local ethnic shop for pulses spices and nuts. I find those a lot cheaper. Many Asian countries are veg/vegan so that is also where you would find coconut oil at a good price.shop in Asian sotres all the time - see above and only this w/end bought 2kg of red lentils for £1.89p and then to another in a different part of the city and found 3 x 2kg for £5! Obviously, you can bigger bags but I don't have the space nor extra cash to bulk buy
    Body products I tend to use are Original source which are vegan, or the co-op for house hold cleaners.How interesting and both brand and shop state this on their packaging?
  • katholicos
    katholicos Posts: 2,658 Forumite
    Excellent, dogstarheaven. Thanks :)
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  • katholicos
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    Aha, just found it at juiceland and there is a good video about it at the bottom of the page.

    Link
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  • I'm omni, but use Ecover in preference to the usual stuff.

    You don't get the great useless clouds of bubbles with it but the actual cleaning is just as good. It's the expectation that high foam = cleaner that's the main problem, IMO. i don't think it has enough staying power to cut through the grease of pans though...so I end up using fresh water and more liquid. Are other brands that I could try?
    aimme13 wrote: »
    Hi,

    using up v chucking out is completely up to you.....once I decided to go vegan i couldnt physically eat anything that wasnt vegan (but I have kids who could eat up none vegan stuff!), however I am trying to only buy vegan toiletries but have a huge stash of products that I will not throw away and so I'm happy to use them up (could be some time!):-) me too, will take some a good year at least!

    I buy my wine from Sainsburys or Co-op as there own brands are labelled vegan. Its a bit of a pain as I'm sure so many wines are vegan but not labelled!! I havnt found the search apps any good for wine either.
    that's useful to know - thanks!
    I always used to use ecover washing up liquid mainly as a local shop refilled the bottle. I shall find out whether anyone in Nott'm doing this.
    I know quite a few vegans who like Veganomicon. I have Appetite for Reduction which has some nice, low fat recipes.
    Yes, I do want to lose weight but not buying eating low-calorie foods tho'! I'm not that sad!
    You might want to join The Vegan Forum and Post Punk Kitchen Forum as it's helpful to talk to a lot of other vegans. PPK has a lot of recipes too.
    yes, I will
    Nutritional yeast is a source of B12 which vegans have to supplement as they can get deficiencies. It has a cheesy nutty type of taste which is difficult to explain.:D The only way I liked it was sprinkled over hot pasta.
    do most ppl take this?
    I take sublingual B12 tablets a few times a week.

    Superdrug labels everything clearly so I buy most of my toiletries from there.

    You can get the vegan lists online for the various supermarkets, there are an awful lot of foods that are accidentally vegan.

    Barnivore lists vegan alcoholic drinks.Barnivore: your vegan wine, beer, and liquor guide
    cba to sort this list out as it's rather American, but thanks anyway
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