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  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,686 Forumite
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    few bugs obviously. Say you are £10 short and both working, how would they deal with that, if you can't attend appts as on shifts etc.
    There's the option of being treated as if you earn the minimum required, so someone only £10 short could choose to be treated as if they earn £10 more, so reducing their UC slightly, rather than being subject to conditionality
  • There are rules for parents depending on ages of child. Eg 5 - 13 year olds are only expected to look during school hours, under 1's are not expected, 1 -5 - to be "work prepared" (ie have a chat every now and then about the possibility.

    So as long as one of the couple (or both) earn 70 hours at NMW it places them out of conditionality. If they don't they need to look to increase income.

    So if a couple are earning less than 70hrsxNMW around (£420wk?) but have one child under 5 they need to be "work prepared" (ie have a chat every now and then about the possibility to meet conditionality?

    What will this mean, going to interviews or just applying for jobs every month?
    Now past halfway through the real term 50% property crash.
  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,686 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Chutzpah Haggler
    But when they show their wage slips or business books it will show they are lying, and this is encouraging people to lie
    It was an option, mentioned somewhere (white paper or briefing notes), but having said that I can't find it in the regulations http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2013/9780111531938/pdfs/ukdsi_9780111531938_en.pdf

    It would be daft not to have this as an option, where someone is only a few £ short of the threshold, after all it would make no difference to the amount paid out in UC whether they earn right up to the threshold or not.

    But it appears only to be in the regulations for the self employed (minimum income floor) unless I've missed it...
  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,686 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Chutzpah Haggler
    So if a couple are earning less than 70hrsxNMW around (£420wk?) but have one child under 5 they need to be "work prepared" (ie have a chat every now and then about the possibility to meet conditionality?

    What will this mean, going to interviews or just applying for jobs every month?
    Going to interviews. They won't have to apply for jobs. Beside in this case the threshold would be 51xNMW (35+16) because the threshold for claimants subject to work-focused interviews only is 16 hours. So if say the husband earns at least 51xNMW pw then there won't even be the interview requirement for the wife
  • zagfles
    zagfles Posts: 21,686 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Chutzpah Haggler
    so our situation at the moment is like this.

    My husband and i run the business during the day , the total number of hours we can open are 32 hours a week , the rules of the market we work on .

    Hubby has a part time job during the evening for 20 hours .

    This means even though the business is only earning us 50-60 a week right now we will have to lie and say we get NMW ?

    or do we put down that its only bringing in 50-60 a week and hubbies wages , either way both his jobs come to = 52 hours a week .

    Will i be expected to apply for jobs ?
    You don't "lie". There's a separate thread about UC for self employed have a read of that, there's a minimum income floor for the self employed see the link I posted above.
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