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Less valuation price due to converted room

Hi,

I am buying a house and the valuation price is 5000 less than purchase price and all that is due to the reason that a converted room from garage is not as per building regulations standandards. The surveyr ask for builiding regulation approval to provide and they will review the price. The bank is only lending money as per the valuation.

I asked seller to provide the approval but he don't have the approval and he is not willing to obtain. He is also not agree with the valuation price and not prepared to negotiate the price.

The estate agent is saying that survery has done error and house price should not be less. He adviced me to pay the cash or get a loan to topup the deposit.

I am first time buyer and really stuck what to do. I cannot afford to pay the cash but I may go to get another loan if I am sure it it right. I don't belive estate agent and I think surveryer is right and he has done the right valuation. So paying the house price more than its value don't looks right in the current market scenerio.

Can someone please guide me is this normal in house buying process to pay extra than valuation price? If yes, then what is the use of surveyer?

Thanks
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  • bob2
    bob2 Posts: 121 Forumite
    nmufti wrote: »
    He is also not agree with the valuation price and not prepared to negotiate the price.

    The estate agent is saying that survery has done error and house price should not be less. He adviced me to pay the cash or get a loan to topup the deposit.

    The estate agent would say that - the estate agent works for the seller and his job is to get you to pay as much as possible.

    Simply tell the seller that if he is not prepared to negotiate then no sale!

    Can I ask - how did you arrive at the purchase price in the first place? Did you make an offer some way below the advertised asking price?
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    nmufti wrote: »

    I asked seller to provide the approval but he don't have the approval and he is not willing to obtain. He is also not agree with the valuation price and not prepared to negotiate the price.

    He will not get approval. As the conversion will not comply with building regulations. In particular insulation.

    Walk away.

    Don't feel pressurised. Another suitable property will come along.
  • nmufti
    nmufti Posts: 29 Forumite
    b!!! wrote: »

    Can I ask - how did you arrive at the purchase price in the first place? Did you make an offer some way below the advertised asking price?

    Thanks for your reply

    Yes, I made an offer below the asking price and it was accepted. I checked on zoopla and rightmove and put offer equal to what was suggested by it. Surveyer also valued the house equal to that but reduced to price due to converted room.
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,338 Forumite
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    If the issues cannot be rectified and the valuation set at the agreed price, tell the agent you want to buy at the surveyor's valuation figure or you'll walk away.

    Missing building regs will impact on you when you wish to sell. If the vendor wanted to get the top price, he should have had the work done "to code."
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • Cara79
    Cara79 Posts: 580 Forumite
    Totally agree with previous posters.

    Seller either negotiates or u walk away.

    Please DO NOT get a loan as this will impact & have a negative effect on your mortgage offer & could reduce your mortgage offer.
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  • princeofpounds
    princeofpounds Posts: 10,396 Forumite
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    Why angry at the survey? It saved the mortgage company bother and you too (given you both have an interest in the house).

    Building non-compliant to code is unlawful. Now you aren't going to go to prison for doing it, but it would have made it a nightmare to sell the house on (as the vendor is now figuring out).

    Depending on what is wrong, making the necessary adjustments could cost 5k or even more.

    You can pay whatever you like for a property but the bank will only lend up to what it thinks it is worth.

    This is all very normal.

    The estate agent is utterly biased, ignore them unless the property really is worth more to you.

    And ignore zoopla etc unless this is one of many identikit houses in the same area. There is no serious accuracy.
  • nmufti
    nmufti Posts: 29 Forumite
    Thank you very much friends.

    Your valuable suggestions helped me to clear my mind and reach the decision! :)
  • nmufti
    nmufti Posts: 29 Forumite
    edited 5 February 2013 at 1:28AM
    hi,

    After one week i receives email from EA that he is surpised that I have withdraw from purchase and didn't informed him.

    I am wondering is there a legal way to withdraw from purchase. All conversation was done on email and i clearly told him that i cannot continue more than valuation price. lateron I also instructed my solicitor to withdraw from purchase.

    Can someone pls guide if i missed something? What is the normal process to withdraw?

    thanks
  • david29dpo
    david29dpo Posts: 3,976 Forumite
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    No, you can withdraw at any time up to exchange with no reason.
    You can write, Email, phone or sent a pigeon if you wish or do nothing.
    In this case i would ignore them.
  • nmufti wrote: »
    hi,

    After one week i receives email from EA that he is surpised that I have withdraw from purchase and didn't informed him.

    I am wondering is there a legal way to withdraw from purchase. All conversation was done on email and i clearly told him that i cannot continue more than valuation price. lateron I also instructed my solicitor to withdraw from purchase.

    Can someone pls guide if i missed something? What is the normal process to withdraw?

    thanks

    I think what he means is that you didn't go back to him and renegotiate.

    You may think that you did this, but perhaps he didn't interpret it that way.
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