Panorama disibilty scam.

shegar

Tonight BBC1 @ 8.30, Investigates the governments expensive welfare reforms that aim to get disabled people into work, and asks who is really gaining from them ......Worth a watch id say.......

baccyman

I saw the programme tonight and surely the government could have foreseen that this was going to happen,
Where certain cases would be too hard to find work for because of thier disabilities and then they are left in limbo,
I am just going through the process of sending back my esa50 and i will probably have to go for the medical and appeals process and it does not give you any confidence in the system when things like this are happening to poeple.

cass1977

i watched the program it didnt even mention physical disability but i was put on esa they told me ive got to go on a work program for two years not heard nothing about that yet but what id like to no is what happens after the two years if they dont find you work does the process start again

Richie-from-the-Boro

#19 last summer - the point then and now is / was that (1) a commercial PBR delivery system has no inventive whatsoever to help the demographically difficult to place cohort, and (2) a Prime Provider can palm off almost all of the work to the Prime Contractor and keep about 50% of the £££ for doing very little other than a referral their in~house Placement Officer.

What has become clear to me is in addition to a badly designed delivery model the treasury abacus (3) has a stranglehold on delivering any meaningful development path of what might have become of the scheme, if, just if, anything other than political hypocrisy was intended in the first instance.

satarical

cass1977 wrote: »

i watched the program it didnt even mention physical disability but i was put on esa they told me ive got to go on a work program for two years not heard nothing about that yet but what id like to no is what happens after the two years if they dont find you work does the process start again

Probably. But it is a much better idea than the old IB system when you were paid every week for years on end and you did not have to show that you were trying to get back into the workplace.

robo989

You going to start speaking english anytime soon?

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

#19 last summer - the point then and now is / was that (1) a commercial PBR delivery system has no inventive whatsoever to help the demographically difficult to place cohort, and (2) a Prime Provider can palm off almost all of the work to the Prime Contractor and keep about 50% of the £££ for doing very little other than a referral their in~house Placement Officer.

What has become clear to me is in addition to a badly designed delivery model the treasury abacus (3) has a stranglehold on delivering any meaningful development path of what might have become of the scheme, if, just if, anything other than political hypocrisy was intended in the first instance.

Richie-from-the-Boro

robo989 wrote: »

You going to start speaking english anytime soon?

- its still, for the moment a free country, so ;
- don't read my posts then !
- sorted .....

speedfreek1000

Has anybody actually taken the time to see what was actually proposed as a vision for the WP back in the mid 2000s?

The DWP launched something called Wellbeing and started incepting lots of programs through other departments (mainly the NHS) to provide tailored support though various knitted together programs to help both the working and non working.

A couple of example of the top of my head are;

Access to Work
IAPT (Improved Access to Psychological Therapies)

There's lots more too that have been trialled and were set for inclusion before the axe started falling in 2010.

It's a travesty of extraordinary proportions that everything that producing results has literally either been dropped or funding so cut that what they can now do is negligible.

The WP was one part of this where by you'd see an advisor who could then refer you into one of these other support services for specialist help gradually getting you back into work where possible.

Although the rhetoric of this Utopian vision is still being pumped out via media outlets and the DWP the sad reality is that it's now zero funding, endless job searches and sanctions for the silliest things.

Hey ho :j