Stop The Welfare Reform Death Scandal!

miduck

rogerblack wrote: »

The headline is unfortunate, and inaccurate.
People can be quite fit for work, and die shortly after an assessment.
Arguing that any death after a WCA failure is due to that failure is an extreme stretch.
Is this the case for some - certainly.

I cannot find a reliable source for the 1666 number.

rogerblack, as always you present a balanced view on the subject.

Headlines such as that of this thread do no favours to the ATOS/ WCA debate - manipulation of stats in such an extreme way makes the author no better than those presenting a counter argument about all claimants being scroungers.

miduck

little_monkey wrote: »

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=58881537&postcount=521

What were mental health services doing sending someone so severely ill home without sufficient support in place? ATOS was in the wrong, but why had an appointee not been arranged, so the claimant did not have to deal with this herself?

I would also note that I have heard exactly that account before, so either someone is making it up, or at the very least amending their story to suit their viewpoint.

Here you go:

vision2009 wrote: »

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I visited a client yesterday on a psychiatric ward.

She had been contacted by ATOS regarding a medical. Her response to this was to slice her own throat open in front of her family.

I work closely with some of the most extreme clients with severe psychiatric issues.

Is this a normal and acceptable

We would like to know, that when ATOS were informed 10 days ago by a forensic psychologist and CPN is why did ATOS firstly agree and cancel appointment, then couple days later send her another appointment, where on this occasion she suceeded in severly put her health at risk and ended up back into hospital, which she had only just been released from 24 hours prior."
Anything to say for yourselves ATOS????????????????????

Words fail me :mad:

From February 2012:

Just in recent days we hear of a psychiatric patient only just released from hospital who slit her throat on receiving another Atos assessment letter.

http://thepotterblogger.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/plan-of-action-for-wrb-lib-dem.html

claire1234

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/43154

heres another one,

hth

Richie-from-the-Boro

> Posted on this very board in June last year <

What we do know - ATOS & death

- government claims half of new claimants are found "fit to work"
- but forgets to mention that over 300,000 have appealed and almost 40% have won
- between January and August last year, 1,100 claimants died after they were put in the WRAG group
- this compares to 5,300 deaths of people who were put in the "support group"
- 1,600 people died before their assessment had been completed
- the assessment [ reduced payment ] should be completed in 13 weeks
- but 35,000 people suffer the reduced payment because they are waiting longer than 13 weeks

With all these statistics and numbers its easy to forget every one is a human being. A human life .. .. .. gone forever. I accept that many would have died anyway, its called the mortality rate [ 6.5 deaths per 1000 ] but the number for the WRAG group [ 137 per 1000 ] is much higher than the national mortality rate. These islands proudly proclaim to be a welfare based society .. .. yeh ! right - of course it is !

NOTE: The mortality rate was for the general population, and that includes those who are of course over the age of 65 and would not be part of the WRAG group .. .. so draw your own conclusions.

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i signed at least 6 different petitions about the remply closures,and guess what they still closed
this lot dont listen to petitions they area waste of energy,if you want to be heard chain yourself to some railings or something useful
if all those who sign petitions got off their rear ends and went on the organised demos then and only then will we be heard

headcone

woodbine wrote: »

i signed at least 6 different petitions about the remply closures,and guess what they still closed
this lot dont listen to petitions they area waste of energy,if you want to be heard chain yourself to some railings or something useful
if all those who sign petitions got off their rear ends and went on the organised demos then and only then will we be heard

Some of us can`t get off our rear ends