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Tories deliberately made unpopular so as to keep Wallace in?
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GeorgeHowell wrote: »A week is a long time in politics, let alone two years.
Remember Kinnock ?
Fair enough but it is a bit previous to say that Labour are cacking it
'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
Fair enough but it is a bit previous to say that Labour are cacking it
Can't speak for the person who first said it, but I am basing that judgment on Milliband's pathetic performnace at PMQs.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
Oppositions always do well in mid-term polls. Generally they don't win the election unless they are 20+ points ahead mid-term, look at the historic polling records on that site. Where oppositions are only 10 points ahead mid-term they don't usually win the next election. Tories had 10-20 point leads in 2008 and failed to win outright in 2010, Kinnock had 20+ point leads in 1990 and didn't win.Why do they need to lure voters back?
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/
Last time Labour won from opposition in 1997 they had 30+ point leads mid term, they were polling in the high 50's and even 60's!0 -
GeorgeHowell wrote: »Can't speak for the person who first said it, but I am basing that judgment on Milliband's pathetic performnace at PMQs.
Short memory there
interesting choice of phrase as well
You can bet Labour are cacking at the moment.'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
Oppositions always do well in mid-term polls. Generally they don't win the election unless they are 20+ points ahead mid-term, look at the historic polling records on that site. Where oppositions are only 10 points ahead mid-term they don't usually win the next election. Tories had 10-20 point leads in 2008 and failed to win outright in 2010, Kinnock had 20+ point leads in 1990 and didn't win.
Last time Labour won from opposition in 1997 they had 30+ point leads mid term, they were polling in the high 50's and even 60's!
The point is Cameron's desperate last throw of the dice has not moved the polls one jot, the bottom line is that voters are conservative (with that small c) and like you say about mid-term polls turning around in elections the same is true when voters faced with a major change like leaving the EU.'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
The point is Cameron's desperate last throw of the dice has not moved the polls one jot, the bottom line is that voters are conservative (with that small c) and like you say about mid-term polls turning around in elections the same is true when voters faced with a major change like leaving the EU.
You're clinging on to that desperate straw because you need to. But mid term polls are not indicative and the effect of the EU game changer will be a slow burner because the majority don't know their a**e from their elbow on it yet.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
These things don't usually have an immediate impact - not that I'd expect this to have a great impact anyway, it's probably more to do with shutting his back-benchers up rather than trying to win votes.The point is Cameron's desperate last throw of the dice has not moved the polls one jot, the bottom line is that voters are conservative (with that small c) and like you say about mid-term polls turning around in elections the same is true when voters faced with a major change like leaving the EU.0 -
These things don't usually have an immediate impact - not that I'd expect this to have a great impact anyway, it's probably more to do with shutting his back-benchers up rather than trying to win votes.
That will have an indirectly beneficial effect on votes because voters hate to see divided parties.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0
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