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can i contest a box junction violation due to poor visibility? (part 2)
londonTiger
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in Motoring
Ok the original thread is here
I have started a new thread because this forum is full of busybodies who like to have a go at people. I'm not asking you for you opinion on "safe driving" - you weren't there, you have no business giving an opinion on the matter when it hasn't been asked for it.
So I'll start again. I've revisited the location where I may have violated the box junction rule and may have a ticket being processed through the system heading my way.
1) I understand that I have violated the rules and do not want to be lectured here about this.
2) I feel (like most people) that a £130 penalty is wholly unjustified for a traffic violation that's silly and made primarily for revenue collection
3) I am, like most people here, on a bit of a budget, so I want to wiggle out of this one.
So if you udnerstand these 3 points read one
Background story.
Traffic was moving at a crawl during rush hour, during which time people always cut into someone else lane that's moving a little bit faster than theirs to get that tiny bit of advantage. Traffic is moving at 5mph or less because everyone is quing up to go through the tunnel to cross the river. Actually 5mph is probably an overshoot. The traffic was start stopping constantly.
I got caught unawares as my attention was focused on keeping a 6ft or less gap with the car in front to avoid being cut in. So I ended up being trapped in a box junction
Box junction is quite faded and it was around 5-6pm after work when it was really dark so visibility was poor.
I have gone through the location again during the day and recorded the road on my video camera. It is clear that the markings are really faint. But is it faint enough to argue that it was not visible. I honestly think that it's not bright enough to grab your attention say 20-30 meters awy, it only becomes noticeable enough once you're in the box.
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=did57jUsCsQ offending box juction around 3:58 mark
p.s. listening to podcast, not me speaking.
I have started a new thread because this forum is full of busybodies who like to have a go at people. I'm not asking you for you opinion on "safe driving" - you weren't there, you have no business giving an opinion on the matter when it hasn't been asked for it.
So I'll start again. I've revisited the location where I may have violated the box junction rule and may have a ticket being processed through the system heading my way.
1) I understand that I have violated the rules and do not want to be lectured here about this.
2) I feel (like most people) that a £130 penalty is wholly unjustified for a traffic violation that's silly and made primarily for revenue collection
3) I am, like most people here, on a bit of a budget, so I want to wiggle out of this one.
So if you udnerstand these 3 points read one
Background story.
Traffic was moving at a crawl during rush hour, during which time people always cut into someone else lane that's moving a little bit faster than theirs to get that tiny bit of advantage. Traffic is moving at 5mph or less because everyone is quing up to go through the tunnel to cross the river. Actually 5mph is probably an overshoot. The traffic was start stopping constantly.
I got caught unawares as my attention was focused on keeping a 6ft or less gap with the car in front to avoid being cut in. So I ended up being trapped in a box junction
Box junction is quite faded and it was around 5-6pm after work when it was really dark so visibility was poor.
I have gone through the location again during the day and recorded the road on my video camera. It is clear that the markings are really faint. But is it faint enough to argue that it was not visible. I honestly think that it's not bright enough to grab your attention say 20-30 meters awy, it only becomes noticeable enough once you're in the box.
Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=did57jUsCsQ offending box juction around 3:58 markp.s. listening to podcast, not me speaking.
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