Cont base ESA year is up, what now?

JS477

So where you said "it can be done on the papers at the DWP if they chose" it appears that your eligability to ESA following a period in the WRAG coming to an end can be deterimed on historical evidence that the DWP may hold and not by the issuing of another ESA50.

Thanks for this information.

rogerblack

JS477 wrote: »

So where you said "it can be done on the papers at the DWP if they chose" it appears that your eligability to ESA following a period in the WRAG coming to an end can be deterimed on historical evidence that the DWP may hold and not by the issuing of another ESA50.

No.
When you move over from ESA-C to ESA-IR dur to time-limiting, there is no reassessment of your health at all in the normal case.
It is a purely financial question of if you are entitled to ESA-IR.

If there is a reasessment of your health (which can occur any time after three months) they can choose to send you an ESA50, or they can just extend the award on the basis of information they hold.

olias

Hi rogerblack and thanks for the info so far. The only thing I am still unsure of, is whether this form to assess income is usually sent in plenty of time before the ESA(C) runs out, thereby assuring no break in payment (assuming my wife fits the criteria for ESA(IR). Or does this form get sent once the ESA(C) runs out, thereby meaning a break in payments until she is reassesed for ESA(IR) on the basis of info provided in this income form. Thanks.

Olias

JS477

rogerblack wrote: »

No.
When you move over from ESA-C to ESA-IR dur to time-limiting, there is no reassessment of your health at all in the normal case.
It is a purely financial question of if you are entitled to ESA-IR.

If there is a reasessment of your health (which can occur any time after three months) they can choose to send you an ESA50, or they can just extend the award on the basis of information they hold.

What's confusing me is where in answer to this question on WCA reassessment:
"Is reassessment carried out by the issuing of another ESA50?" you said

"Perhaps (it can be done on the papers at the DWP if they chose)....."

Cpt.Scarlet

JS477 wrote: »

What's confusing me is where in answer to this question on WCA reassessment:
"Is reassessment carried out by the issuing of another ESA50?" you said

"Perhaps (it can be done on the papers at the DWP if they chose)....."

The vast majority of re-assessments require the issuing of an ESA50, a very small percentage may be decided without the need for one e.g. the terminally ill where a DS15000 has been issued.

Cpt.Scarlet

olias wrote: »

Hi rogerblack and thanks for the info so far. The only thing I am still unsure of, is whether this form to assess income is usually sent in plenty of time before the ESA(C) runs out, thereby assuring no break in payment (assuming my wife fits the criteria for ESA(IR). Or does this form get sent once the ESA(C) runs out, thereby meaning a break in payments until she is reassesed for ESA(IR) on the basis of info provided in this income form. Thanks.

Olias

It should be sent to the claimant in advance but often isn't, unfortunately there is no online version of the ESA3.

schrodie

Cpt.Scarlet wrote: »

The vast majority of re-assessments require the issuing of an ESA50, a very small percentage may be decided without the need for one e.g. the terminally ill where a DS15000 has been issued.

Isn't a DS1500 submitted when life expectancy is < 6months?

olias

Cpt.Scarlet wrote: »

It should be sent to the claimant in advance but often isn't, unfortunately there is no online version of the ESA3.

I take it there is nothing to stop us ringing and requesting one if the date becomes imminent and we still havent recieved one?

olias

Cpt.Scarlet

schrodie wrote: »

Isn't a DS1500 submitted when life expectancy is < 6months?

Yes. that's the DWP criteria

rogerblack

Cpt.Scarlet wrote: »

Yes. that's the DWP criteria

'When there is a reasonable expectation of death within 6 months'.
this is not quite the same as 'a life expectancy of 6 months'.

One can have a reasonable expectation of rain in cloudy weather, without the chances of rain exceeding 50%.
(Paraphrasing the exact guidance, I have not looked it up again)