The BBC's "Growing up poor". Poverty seen up close

N1AK

CRISPIANNE3 wrote: »

I felt really sorry for the girl from Glasgow. She had a 6 month placement working over 30 hours a week for less than £2.00 an hour. It looked to be in a small supermarket and at the end of the period she was not offered a job.

Surely this cannot be right. To me she was just being exploited and the company concerned should feel thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

To be fair to the company they took on someone who potentially had a history (we never see whole picture). Paid her, 'trained' her and gave her experience. It isn't their fault that a job wasn't waiting in the economy afterwards.

If the placement really was 'exploitation' rather than a way to give people work experience who couldn't otherwise get it then the government shouldn't be allowing that kind of scheme.

Wookster

What does the labour puppy laura have to say about wealth distribution & mobility becoming worse under labour?

Let me guess, she blames the Tories.

N1AK

GeorgeHowell wrote: »

It's down to trendy, liberal, anti-elitist so-called educational experts who have been allowed to foist their damaging, politically correct ideas onto the system,

I think you'll get a more productive debate of the issues without those kinds of attacks. Sorry for the original post; I'm obviously being too passive aggressive this morning.

Generali

Wookster wrote: »

What does the labour puppy laura have to say about wealth distribution & mobility becoming worse under labour?

Let me guess, she blames the Tories.

Interestingly, income distribution has become 'fairer' under the Tories:

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/dcp29904_295499.pdf

BertieUK

N1AK wrote: »

To be fair to the company they took on someone who potentially had a history (we never see whole picture). Paid her, 'trained' her and gave her experience. It isn't their fault that a job wasn't waiting in the economy afterwards.

If the placement really was 'exploitation' rather than a way to give people work experience who couldn't otherwise get it then the government shouldn't be allowing that kind of scheme.

It would have been more rewarding to have chosen a company that could have given this young lady a position after training on maybe a part-time basis. Then with her past behind her she could have grasped the chance to prove to herself that she can have a future if she was prepared to work for it.

Because although she has got onto the first rung of the ladder she has now to go and look for work, maybe the powers that be that know this young ladies full history thought that this was the best move.

mel48rose

CRISPIANNE3 wrote: »

I felt really sorry for the girl from Glasgow. She had a 6 month placement working over 30 hours a week for less than £2.00 an hour. It looked to be in a small supermarket and at the end of the period she was not offered a job.

Surely this cannot be right. To me she was just being exploited and the company concerned should feel thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

I totally agree. I felt so sorry for her, totally exploited.

GeorgeHowell

N1AK wrote: »

I think you'll get a more productive debate of the issues without those kinds of attacks. Sorry for the original post; I'm obviously being too passive aggressive this morning.

Completely disagree. Those policies have been predominant in state education since the late 1960s, and have done enormous damage to it and to the country. It needs calling out vigorously, especially since it is largely politically motivated, in the interests of social engineering, and not much about obtaining the best education for our children

Wookster

Generali wrote: »

Interestingly, income distribution has become 'fairer' under the Tories:

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/dcp29904_295499.pdf

Isn't it amazing that if people are incentivised to work rather than take benefits then they become wealthier.

The Tories are the nasty party aren't they.

The_White_Horse

these people would be far better off sold into slavery. they would have somewhere to live, no worries, hard work giving them a sense of worth and best of all, hours of fun of singing songs of freedom around the camp fire. the govt wins as they get a fee for the slave, the person buying them win as they get a slave and the slave wins for the above reasons. win win win.

if the slave wants out, they can buy out their contract - sort of like a footballer.

the_flying_pig

CRISPIANNE3 wrote: »

I felt really sorry for the girl from Glasgow. She had a 6 month placement working over 30 hours a week for less than £2.00 an hour. It looked to be in a small supermarket and at the end of the period she was not offered a job.

Surely this cannot be right. To me she was just being exploited and the company concerned should feel thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

they were a mixed bag, the people in teh show.

i completely agree that the girl from glasgow seemed quite admirable. unlike seemingly all the others featured she didn't appear to smoke/otherwise waste money & seemed to want to work rather than claim. i daresay she'll be fine in teh long run.