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I am trying to buy £75837583578375839ssss worth of LED lights

JethroUK
JethroUK Posts: 1,959 Forumite
edited 13 January 2013 at 10:29AM in Praise, vent & warnings
I am trying to buy £75837583578375839ssss worth of LED lights for my home and car

Biggest selection seem to be on Ebay - but - of the 478217481047 bulbs listed I'm finding it near impossible to find any with similar light output to the ones they need to replace

For comparison you can measure light output in Lumins, consumption/wattage or even comparable wattage (equal to 60 watt conventional bulb) - this would give you some sort of comparison to work with

Virtually none of the listing include any of this information in the heading, and only some include it in the actual listing its self :mad:

LEDs can be any size and any power/light output (i.e. 6 LEDs could be twice as bright a 7548329472 LEDs)

So the number of LEDs used in a bulb is the most useless information you could have about an LED bulb

Yet - The number of LEDs used in the bulb is mentioned in every one of the 478217481047 listings, in THE TITLE



:mad:

How/Why these people are in business is totally beyond me

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I'll suspend my purchase of LEDs until a company appears on the market with the business nouse of at least a school leaver
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  • withabix
    withabix Posts: 9,508 Forumite
    The number of watts produced by an incandescent lightbulb was a pretty pointless piece of information anyway.

    Most of that was heat, not light.

    Oh, it is Lumens, by the way! ;)
    British Ex-pat in British Columbia!
  • JethroUK
    JethroUK Posts: 1,959 Forumite
    withabix wrote: »
    The number of watts produced by an incandescent lightbulb was a pretty pointless piece of information anyway.

    Not pointless if used as light output comparison since even my 500 year old Mum understands "= to 60 watt conventional bulb", "= to 25 watt conventional bulb", "= to 100 watt conventional bulb"
    withabix wrote: »
    Oh, it is Lumens, by the way! ;)

    Lumens, Grumens, Blumens, "equivalent to conventional bulb", actual LED wattage/consumption, or flippin Candle Power

    *any* (absolutely "any") measure of light output would be great when trawling aimlessly thru 4758294792427 listings - but there is Zip

    last thing anyone needs to see is how many LEDs are involved - and this is displayed in the TITLE of each and every listing bar none!

    total morons!
    When will the "Edit" and "Quote" button get fixed on the mobile web interface?
  • visidigi
    visidigi Posts: 6,620 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    posted in error in the wrong forum... please ignore.
  • Hoof_Hearted
    Hoof_Hearted Posts: 2,362 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts
    We refurbished our house and put in a load of recessed LEDs. We used this site which looks like it has the kind of information you are looking for. If you are looking for GU10's, for example, be aware of the cool and warm light versions. They give a very different type of light.

    http://www.ledhut.co.uk/?gclid=CM_L98D-57QCFW_KtAodFTwAyw
    Je suis sabot...
  • Yorkie1
    Yorkie1 Posts: 12,245 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Spam reported - multiple posts promoting the same company.
  • sabretoothtigger
    sabretoothtigger Posts: 10,036 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Photogenic Combo Breaker
    CREE are the golden standard in LED lights. Otherwise you will need to try and see each time as its not really standardised
  • tuggy12
    tuggy12 Posts: 1,314 Forumite
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    I've yet to find a warm LED light of any description that is actually 'warm'

    - Warm LED candle bulb replacements

    - Warm LED MR16 halogen replacements.

    - 3 watts up to 6 watts of both types.

    - from 6 different suppliers

    - from cheap to expensive.

    In all cases the 'warm' light from LED lights is nothing like the 'warm' light from the replaced lights.

    The 'warm' LED lights give of a slightly green tinge, which my OH was quick to point out made our hallway look like the entrance to a funeral parlour.

    I'm sticking with compact fluorescent energy saver bulbs for the time being, even though they take 20-30 seconds to reach full brightness, at lest they are truly 'warm'
  • The problem of comparisson is a huge problem when assessing light outputs, I recently read a technical piece on doing exactly that in a lighting forum and its obvious its a massive head ache for people right now.

    On warm white there are some out there, Deltech, Aurora and the wholesaler TLC sell very good quality LED's which I thought were very similiar to halogens. However as someone has previously mentioned, there is plenty of junk out there so make sure you have a exit strategy!

    Beware the "dimmable" LED lamp tho, if you take that on I would speak to the manufacturer and seek a guarantee that they will take back anything which is found lacking.

    Ive recently expended an enormous amount of time and money attempting to find a solution for a customer who wanted dimmable gu10 led spotlights to no avail.

    I didn't fit a low load resistance which can mitigate some of the flickering problems associated with dimming LED lamps as it seems counter productive to add a resistance when the biggest reason to buy them is to save money yet adding a resistor has the opposite affect!

    However there were a number of more expensive dimmers which I have not yet attempted such as the MK Edge and the Rako dimmer both of which cost a kings ransom but apparently dim LED's to perfection.

    Sorry if this is no help but its all I think I know!
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