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MP's want 32% pay rise....

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  • PaulF81
    PaulF81 Posts: 1,727 Forumite
    thorsoak wrote: »
    wonder what Rugged Toast, PaulF81 and their friends have to comment on this?????

    I already have. Need to get your glasses checked gramps. :D
  • alinwales
    alinwales Posts: 335 Forumite
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    from BBC:

    On average, Tories said their salary should be £96,740, while Lib Dems
    thought the right amount was £78,361 and Labour £77,322. Other parties put the
    figure at £75,091.

    ha ha tories, ha ha ha!
  • MacMickster
    MacMickster Posts: 3,647 Forumite
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    MPs' pay could be pegged forever to the national average salary [the proper average, all genders & including PT work] say 2-3 times it so about £50-75k?

    Or 20 times Jobseekers Allowance even!
    "When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson
  • BertieUK
    BertieUK Posts: 1,701 Forumite
    edited 11 January 2013 at 9:10AM
    I think that they, the MP's are no different to anyone else, we all want more even looking at one of the first words that we learn as a baby is 'want' its in our makeup.

    Take it with a pinch of salt and tell them to join the queue...
  • zygurat789
    zygurat789 Posts: 4,263 Forumite
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    How about paying them on results?
    The only thing that is constant is change.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    I think if we're ever to attract competent people to run this country, we'll need to pay them significantly more.

    However the current shower of incompetent buffoons can jog on if they think they deserve another penny.

    What do you mean by competent for an MP.
    What are the skills required to make a decent one?
  • N1AK
    N1AK Posts: 2,903 Forumite
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    If I received a similar survey I'd ask for a lot.

    MPs' pay could be pegged forever to the national average salary [the proper average, all genders & including PT work] say 2-3 times it so about £50-75k? With proper expenses [maybe the govt could own some kind of hall of residence?] for those living further than commuting distance.

    £85k really sounds a lot to me.

    £85k is a decent wage but it's hardly excessive especially for the level of competence I want in people doing that job. The current wage for a an MP is below that of a typical Junior school head. I admire people who can run a school well but don't think it makes sense that someone running a single school should be earning more than someone representing ~80,000 people and responsible to ensuring our laws, services etc are well managed.

    What is very noticeable about MPs pay is that as seems to be true everywhere they don't seem to appreciate just how much their pension package and other benefits are worth. An equivalent (to current MP pay of £67k) private sector job would be a 5 year contract role paying ~£120,000+pa with no package (pension etc).

    The above figure also ignores the pontential to benefit considerably from dubious use of the allowances and expenses system, including those that are legit and still in use (renting to each other for example).
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  • N1AK
    N1AK Posts: 2,903 Forumite
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    In fact I can't help but notice that MPs pensions are sufficiently good that someone working in the private sector would not be able to get tax relief on an equivalent scheme if Labour's proposal to cap pension relief for those earning over £150k came in.
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  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    edited 11 January 2013 at 10:29AM
    N1AK wrote: »
    £85k is a decent wage but it's hardly excessive especially for the level of competence I want in people doing that job. The current wage for a an MP is below that of a typical Junior school head. I admire people who can run a school well but don't think it makes sense that someone running a single school should be earning more than someone representing ~80,000 people and responsible to ensuring our laws, services etc are well managed.

    What is very noticeable about MPs pay is that as seems to be true everywhere they don't seem to appreciate just how much their pension package and other benefits are worth. An equivalent (to current MP pay of £67k) private sector job would be a 5 year contract role paying ~£120,000+pa with no package (pension etc).

    The above figure also ignores the pontential to benefit considerably from dubious use of the allowances and expenses system, including those that are legit and still in use (renting to each other for example).

    And if they are sensible it can be a spring board to much more lucrative and less onnerous roles.

    They may nominally represent 80000 people but I suspect they on actively respond and work with a small fraction of them. The majority will be passive sheep.

    As regard to ensuring laws and services are well managed don't they just do as they are told by the whips largely. it would be nice to have real cabinet government let alone a whole chamber.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    What does a bank bench MP do that is so difficult?
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