mondeo door membranes

mambo69

Hi all

I have now by a process of elimination worked out that the cause of my water ingress is going to be the door membranes no longer being fixed on properly

Does anyone know where you can source new membranes from so I can get an idea of cost before I ring and get it booked in to have the 2 rear doors replaced?

I have seen timings of about an hour per side to do the job, plus parts so just want to work out in my head a rough cost.

Before anyone mentions doing it yourself I dont have the skills to attempt this and I want it done right as I need to get rid of the puddle :rotfl:

many thanks

steve-L

mambo69 wrote: »

Hi all

I have now by a process of elimination worked out that the cause of my water ingress is going to be the door membranes no longer being fixed on properly

Does anyone know where you can source new membranes from so I can get an idea of cost before I ring and get it booked in to have the 2 rear doors replaced?

I have seen timings of about an hour per side to do the job, plus parts so just want to work out in my head a rough cost.

Before anyone mentions doing it yourself I dont have the skills to attempt this and I want it done right as I need to get rid of the puddle :rotfl:

many thanks

Do you mean the rubber like (usually black) the window sits into or the interior of the door (a polythene sheet)

The exterior ones are very simple to replace.... I know you said your not mechanically minded but they just push on. As they get old they stretch thus becoming a source of leakage.

In interior really is just polythene sheet on the doors I've had apart. The work is pulling the door apart and all the lock/window cables.... from what I have seen (on a Peugeot a Honda and a BMW all of which I have had reason to take the door apart) any heavy duty polythene sheet cut to size would do?

If you look on youtube for how to fit new speakers you'll see what I mean about the interior stuff....

they are glue/double sided tape stuff onto the door itself and they could just be stuck down with bathroom sealant.... (most likely is they are just peeling away) this in itself is simple but putting the door back is the harder part.

If your not confident don't do it yourself but equally it's not something the average handyman can't do.... given garages cost £50/hour its going to cost you £100 to have the 5 mins work actually glue/silicone sealant'ing them back.

Honestly its the sort of thing I'd do for a non mechanically minded friend or relative. Watch the youtube 1st for where all the clips and screws are for that particular make/model but then its just a slow process .... it might take the garage 45 mins and a competent handyman 1.5 hrs for the 1st one

Do you not have a friend/relative might at last take the panel off and have a look? it might save you £100? +

forgotmyname

Yeah its just polythene, But its held on with a rubber sealant which works very well.

Have you had the door panel off to have a look? Water can enter through the speakers. This is a known issue. Some people have made little shields to direct any water past them.

But are the top seals doing their job? Are the drain channels clear?

olias

If its coming away, then just tape it back on with waterproof tape - job done, should take 10 minutes each side. The only thing you need to be careful of is breaking the clips as you pry off the trim.

An independant garage will probably do that for you in about 20 minutes for something like £25.

Olias

steve-L

olias wrote: »

If its coming away, then just tape it back on with waterproof tape - job done, should take 10 minutes each side. The only thing you need to be careful of is breaking the clips as you pry off the trim.

An independant garage will probably do that for you in about 20 minutes for something like £25.

Olias

You can usually get a bag on 10 clips off eBay as well for a couple of quid. (Just in case)

Yeah its just polythene, But its held on with a rubber sealant which works very well.

I think its probably just a silicone sealant like used on bathrooms!
If not this should work as well.... the main thing is you don't want a glue that sets rigid (like araldite or superglue) as the stress will get it to come away so you want something with a tiny bit of give and waterproof.

Have you had the door panel off to have a look? Water can enter through the speakers. This is a known issue. Some people have made little shields to direct any water past them.

But are the top seals doing their job? Are the drain channels clear?

Yep... true....

Robisere

Do you mean the polythene inside the door panels, as explained above, or do you mean the rubber seals which sit in the frame of the door? These are called Aperture Seals, as in the aperture that the door closes into. In my many years in the trade, I only had to replace thes on one vehicle. That was a Honda, at a time when Honda and Rover were in partnership, with Honda and rover using the same bodyshells. I found that the aperture seals were the same, but the Rover sets were cheaper. That can be a very time-consuming job, not difficult if time and patience are applied, but tricky as each seal has to be applied from the top, working down to a gap at the bottom.

If you do mean the polythene in the door panels, that is a relatively easy job. I would not accept a high price for it. Ask for a written QUOTE (not an ESTIMATE) and you will see the cost involved.

mambo69

yes its the polythene inside the door, the seal was already replaced and the problem is still there, and when they did that they checked all the drain holes etc

steve-L

It really is just polythene sheet and sealant .....
The garage price is just going to be a few quid plus labour if you get it agreed up front....

The labour part though is a issue depending on your car doors ... sometimes it's just a time consuming if unskilled job involving a minimum of 2 people (someone has to hold it if its got electrical connections while the other disconnects) ....

also its probably not even the sheet, just the adhesive that needs replacing....

forgotmyname

Steve L.
I think its probably just a silicone sealant like used on bathrooms!
If not this should work as well.... the main thing is you don't want a glue that sets rigid (like araldite or superglue) as the stress will get it to come away so you want something with a tiny bit of give and waterproof.

Bathroom sealant. Not quite.. Want some to try.. Its evil

It sticks to anything. Put some on your fingers and it stains.

Its a mix of super sticky putty and that non drying vandal paint. Very good stuff.