dodgy electrics - anything i can do

AJS33

Thank you, it gives me hope that there is someone out there stopping people who are not qualified to touch things like electrics, plumbing.

BertieUK

AJS33 wrote: »

Thank you, it gives me hope that there is someone out there stopping people who are not qualified to touch things like electrics, plumbing.

The problem as well with dodgy so called tradesmen is that when people get their quotes for different tradesmen they 'assume' quite wrongly sometimes that these are credible tradesmen and wrongly judge them on the price that they quote and think that the cheapest one suits.

Wrong the cheepest quote could very well be your cowboy and leave you with dangerous electrics.

phill99

auroan wrote: »

7 February 2006
For immediate release

Successful prosecution by Bath & North East Somerset Council’s Building Control section
http://community.screwfix.com/message/261995

"An electrical safety law, Part P of the Building Regulations, was
introduced by the Government on 1st January 2005 with the aim of further enhancing the protection of homeowners and reducing the risk of electric shock when using electricity.

The law, which applies to England and Wales aims to improve electrical safety in the home and prevent the number of accidents, which are caused by faulty electrical work."

http://www.niceic.com/Uploads/File1247.pdf

"What will happen if you don’t follow the regulations?

You will have no certificate to prove that the work has been carried out by a registered electrician, or that the work performed has been passed as safe by your local building control.

It may be problematic when it comes to selling your home if you cannot produce
evidence that electrical work has been carried out in accordance with the
Building Regulations.

It is a criminal offence to carry out work that does not comply with building regulations, with a maximum fine of £5,000. Your local building control may insist that you re-do the electrical work."

I reiterate as per my post at post #10

Give me one case of a HOMEOWNER being prosecuted for working on his own electrics in his own home.

The case you refer to is of a bathroom fitter.

auroan

And your point is ? It's still illegal.

AJS33

It might not have been a homeowner, it might have been a trades person, my point was, if i could find out who did the dodgy electrics, then was there any way of making them accountable for it....

The bodge job was a fire hazard, and they could have potentially killed me.... who puts tin foil round a transformer, who puts a pot plant over a spot light...... People should not be meddling with things they don't know about....

This is my point

DaftyDuck

"...who puts a pot plant over a spot light"

I put ceramic plant pots over lights, better call the cops. :eek: Oh, but I don't leave a plant in, like your bodger appears to have done. Does it grow well?

Kiran

You can work on electricity, you can work on gas in your own house providing you are competent to do so, the issue is if something goes wrong how do you prove you were competent to undertake the work. If your house burns down because you have wired dodgy ceiling lights then its highly unlikely that your house insurance will want to pay out or worse if someone was hurt/died.

The prossecutions occur when someone receiving "reward" for their work does not hold recognised qualifications "proving competence". There is no law in England or Wales that says "you can not work on electrical installations in your own home if you are not an electrician"

antrobus

Kiran wrote: »

..There is no law in England or Wales that says "you can not work on electrical installations in your own home if you are not an electrician"

No, but there is a law that says that if you do so, you are supposed to notify your local authority's building control department who will then come and inspect the work. Since 2005 all electrical work carried out in a dwelling needs to be certified; either by a qualified electrician who member of one of the self-certification schemes, or by building control.

If a homeowner does their own electrical work and doesn't notify building control, they're committing an offence. (I think you can be fined up to £5k.) Of course, one might doubt whether the powers that be are that interested in going around investigating former homeowners and prosecuting them for mucking about with their own electrics.

Mr_Ted

:rotfl:Prob got the idea and info from an MSE "EXPERT" originally:rotfl:

Thats the problem with this place, TOO much advice to incompetants, ITS DANGEROUS :mad:

newbie1980

the law is very strange as it states work must be carried out by a competant person but what is a competant person

im actually a part p electrician and now niceic and elecsa are getiing together to make a electrical council to try and explain the part p to the domestic homes

the fines that councils issue used to go to central coffers but the councils had to pay for the fees so they would not persue

now the money goes to the council who takes action so they are more likely to follow up now but i wouldnt count on it

some of the work i have been to you would not believe