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Cameron wants another seven years as PM...

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  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    kabayiri wrote: »
    I'm as short on answers as the next person, but I have to question what sort of work moved from public sector to private in recent times.

    A good example is the outsourcing of IT work from the Revenue and Customs to initially EDS (though they were so bad it got moved on to Cap and Fujitsu). All that happened is that public sector staff were TUPEd into private companies and sold back. A typical rate of this selling back in the mid noughties was over £550 a day. Are you telling me the state can't employ a decent IT person for less than £550 a day?

    Never mind, eh, the bean counters in Cap and Fujitsu manage to minimise their tax contribution to peanuts, and still the tax payer is shafted by their exhorbitant rates.

    We should demand value for money.

    Or the fact that these companies will negotiate a contract for a complex service, where errors in definition by both sides occur, but you expect a simple change and the cost is penal.

    As AB says they are equally pitiful at doing it it just depends who you trust more. I know who always end up picking up the pieces so why break something in the first place. Just make it more efficient and no that doesn't need massive hierarchies to police it either.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,466 Forumite
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    BertieUK wrote: »
    You have every right to make comment on this Forum about whether a thread was really worth it, you do not have to read it or take part in its discussion, if all posts were of a similar theme how boring it would be.

    Just as to get back, for a moment, as to whether or not this thread was worthy to be placed on this discussion board, just look back at all your choice threads, and count the number of views you had and how may people decided to take part and make comments about them. Let me tell you...

    ...You had one half a million people that read your threads and only 350 or so made comment, now that is not a very interesting average of less than 1.5 comments made.

    You may twist these figures as much as you can to appear to be the opposite but I'm afraid that I call a spade a spade, my choice of vocabulary may not be up to your standards and I may certainly not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but...

    were you surprised that david cameron wants to keep doing his current job? did you think "wow, that is something out of the ordinary, i really must discuss it with about 11 strangers on the internet"?

    also, you may call a spade a spade, but you don't appear to know how to count. about 10,000 is not "half a million", and 350 divided by 21 is 16.67 not 1.5. not that any of that actually means anything.

    what you should consider is all of the threads that i could have started but decided not to.
  • BertieUK
    BertieUK Posts: 1,701 Forumite
    edited 6 January 2013 at 10:21PM
    were you surprised that david cameron wants to keep doing his current job? did you think "wow, that is something out of the ordinary, i really must discuss it with about 11 strangers on the internet"?

    also, you may call a spade a spade, but you don't appear to know how to count. about 10,000 is not "half a million", and 350 divided by 21 is 16.67 not 1.5. not that any of that actually means anything.

    what you should consider is all of the threads that i could have started but decided not to.

    In all honesty I think that you are just an invidual that thinks that they are so smart behind a keyboard that they get their entertainment and kicks from coming of Forums like this just to get up peoples noses.

    Some of the threads that you started had virtual no substance for any discussion at all, 307 views 2 comments, 503 views 4 comments. You are just a bag of wind, and sadly probably an intelligent one to boot.

    These figures are there in black and white you can run but you cannot hide from your own facts. I will not stoop as low as to make comments about you that I have read what you have said about others that post on this Forum.
  • Zero_Sum
    Zero_Sum Posts: 1,567 Forumite
    he has no chance. next Govt will be a Labour/UKIP coalition. Should be VERY interesting.

    I'd be very suprised if UKIP even win any seats.

    It'll probably be Lib/Lab or possibly Lab/SNP
  • Zero_Sum
    Zero_Sum Posts: 1,567 Forumite
    sss555s wrote: »
    I hope he does stay in. Gawd help us if clueless and gormless get in.

    Have Labour actually got any polices or do they just constantly try and pick holes in what the ruling party do?


    They're already 'in'

    BTW I don't actually recall the Tories saying what they'd do in power up until about March 2010
  • BertieUK
    BertieUK Posts: 1,701 Forumite
    Zero_Sum wrote: »
    They're already 'in'

    BTW I don't actually recall the Tories saying what they'd do in power up until about March 2010

    If you divulge your plans too early you stand a chance that they could be scuppered by the opposition before election day.

    The theory is that you keep your powder dry...
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    BertieUK wrote: »
    If you divulge your plans too early you stand a chance that they could be scuppered by the opposition before election day.

    The theory is that you keep your powder dry...

    IHT for example?
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,466 Forumite
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    BertieUK wrote: »
    Some of the threads that you started had virtual no substance for any discussion at all, 307 views 2 comments, 503 views 4 comments. You are just a bag of wind, and sadly probably an intelligent one to boot.

    those threads were posted in the house buying / renting forum, asking specific questions about something. they weren't intended to provoke a lengthy discussion. i say this just in case you were labouring under the misapprehension that every forum on this site is for discussing how much better things would be with socialists running the place and david cameron and george osborne being thrown in a well. (for the avoidance of doubt i'm with you on throwing george in the well [you must grab him by his horns]).

    but anyway, back to your point. were you actually surprised that david cameron wants to win the next election and be PM for another term.
  • BertieUK
    BertieUK Posts: 1,701 Forumite
    IHT for example?

    Inheritance Tax .. You have lost me now :)
  • chewmylegoff
    chewmylegoff Posts: 11,466 Forumite
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    BertieUK wrote: »
    If you divulge your plans too early you stand a chance that they could be scuppered by the opposition before election day.

    The theory is that you keep your powder dry...

    or labour's new way of doing things with the "take a job or lose your benefits" policy. announce a policy but qualify it by saying that it isn't your policy - it's what the government should do, but you won't be doing it if you get into power.
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