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csa, ex working but csa wont touch him

my ex didnt pay for my daughter for years, didnt even see her growing up, i took him to csa, who constantly had him at a nil assessment, even though he was working f/t, eventually few years on, they said he had to pay me £88 a week, i got £66 a week, with the promise of big back pay of arrears, then my case moved to another department, and they started over, meaning no arrears, no payback, nothing! he now claims after earning £800 a week, in I.T, hes in f/t education, and his g/f pays me £80 a month for him, they have a huge morgage, holidays, nice car, motorbike, days out, constant trips to football, its endless, my daughter now sees him once a month, and says he goes on business trips etc, yet csa say they've looked through tax records and hes in education, i dont believe this, im being taken for a mug, really could do with some advice please????? :(
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  • DUTR
    DUTR Posts: 12,958 Forumite
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    What is it you are bickering about exactly? That his assesment is NIL or that he is living a life you envy?
  • for one....that his nil assessment was a LIE!
    i myself have a lovely life thank you, but am fed up with people ignoring their children and thinking its ok not to help pay for them!
    and 2, if you're going to start this off being a total idiot, please go away!
    does that answer your question?
  • DUTR
    DUTR Posts: 12,958 Forumite
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    for one....that his nil assessment was a LIE!
    i myself have a lovely life thank you, but am fed up with people ignoring their children and thinking its ok not to help pay for them!
    and 2, if you're going to start this off being a total idiot, please go away!
    does that answer your question?

    The NIL assesment was correct though, so how can it be a lie?
    If you have a lovely life, stop posting HIS personal information, how much do you earn a week? (you know what I'm saying) He and his partner are entitled to holidays, the law says the parents have to contribute financially, not PAY for them.
    The only idiot is you trolling.

    If you are not happy with the assesment figure then appeal via the csa or cmec, I'm sure you have read enough posts on here, the outcome is not garaunteed to turn in your favour and in any instance it will not be swift.
    Good luck, but I fear you may have to face years of further dissapointment.
  • **Patty**
    **Patty** Posts: 1,385 Forumite
    The case......is it Old rules or new rules?
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  • it was old rules, now its under new rules
  • DUTR
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    edited 6 January 2013 at 9:35AM
    I do pay and still have a fine life thank you very much :D
    CSA is not the end of the world for us NRPs.
    In your original post you did mention pay for his daughter, having a child is not a punishment, it may only be a word, but less of the pay and more of the contribution and people will be offer more empathy.
    If the CSA are not follwing up the complaint, perhaps they do not have enough evidence that contradicts his assesment.
    You will get good advice from both parties, but when a post comes across as "how can I get him?" then do expect some sort of hostility. :o
  • **Patty**
    **Patty** Posts: 1,385 Forumite
    If it was old rules then it's possible it was a NIL assessment due to high mortgage costs.

    Far as i know.....NO cases have been auto-migrated to CSA2 so somewhere along the line you must have closed the CSA1 case & then opened a CSA2 case.

    If that's so....^^ it might've helped if you'd said so :o
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  • DUTR
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    **Patty** wrote: »
    The case......is it Old rules or new rules?

    £800 gross or net? per week or month?
    It's not a critisism, I could forge a payslip and flaunt it in front of my child's mother.
    Anways £800 per week would equate to £120 in CS contributions, he is not really going to miss that as he is left with a great amount of disposable income that many would envy.
  • Own_My_Own
    Own_My_Own Posts: 6,098 Forumite
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    same old,same old You will have to learn to ignore some comments on here.
    You are a PWC ( parent with contact) and there for automatically hated by some (no all) NRP (non-residing parent), who assume you be a envious layabout, after every penny you can get, to spend on fags and booze.

    What you earn is not relevant when working out CSA, so please do not feel obliged to answer posters who ask you this.

    Some posters on here forget that most PWC are trying to get money to help bring up a child. And that watching the NRP drive round in a new car and holiday abroad, while paying nothing towards the upbringing of that child annoying.
  • Chrisblue1962
    Chrisblue1962 Posts: 1,203 Forumite
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    edited 5 January 2013 at 6:13PM
    my ex didnt pay for my daughter for years, didnt even see her growing up, i took him to csa, who constantly had him at a nil assessment, even though he was working f/t, eventually few years on, they said he had to pay me £88 a week, i got £66 a week, with the promise of big back pay of arrears, then my case moved to another department, and they started over, meaning no arrears, no payback, nothing! he now claims after earning £800 a week, in I.T, hes in f/t education, and his g/f pays me £80 a month for him, they have a huge morgage, holidays, nice car, motorbike, days out, constant trips to football, its endless, my daughter now sees him once a month, and says he goes on business trips etc, yet csa say they've looked through tax records and hes in education, i dont believe this, im being taken for a mug, really could do with some advice please????? :(

    Hi same old, same old,

    You're obviously now aware that your ex has had a positive change in his circumstances, through what your daughter knows.

    Unfortunately, CSA cannot re-assess your assessment based on just hearsay. It is possible your ex is in education and his partner is employed but again, the real truth could be anything.

    So, in order to get the assessment increased your need to gather real credible evidence as to your ex and his partner's circumstances, such as:

    • Address of employer(s)
    • Type of employment / position
    • Vehicles owned / driven
    • Address of college if in education
    • Home address
    • Value / Sale price when purchased
    • Name of owner(s) / purchaser(s)
    Your ex is not going give this information voluntarily so it may mean a few polite phone calls to confirm he works at x or studies at y.

    Property ownership details are available via Land Registry and sale prices for houses can be found on property websites as they list sales history for a street with dates and prices. Proof of residency is available on the Electoral Roll.

    If possible, try to gather information from people who know / knew both of you but be very very careful as once your ex knows you're gathering information, he may "shut up shop" so to speak

    It may take time and effort but you can do it without having to confront your ex directly.

    Good Luck. Some men who walk out on their child / children will think nothing of not telling the truth to the CSA, DWP, HMRC, etc
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