Stannah Stairlifts ... HELP HELP HELP !!!

Stairlift_Trader

Oh' right sorry will remove Sig

Seen a link in post 12 so assumed you could add links advertise etc...

Not here to Rock the boat if you get my drift

All the best Stairlift Trader

Stairlift_Trader

Anybody got any ideas why i can't post a thread using my main computer running IE6

It say's my post is to short less than ten words or something similar. Have to boot up my laptop to post threads

Works fine on other forums i post to????

hollydays

Stairlift_Trader wrote: »

"Is that not a deliberate,cynically exploitive attempt to give the impression you are somehow allied to the organization "Help The Aged ",and I take it you are not?"

You take it correctly! We are not associated with any charity and never had any intentions to give people the impression that we are. The photo image was placed there so that viewers instantly got a pictorial vision our service is 100 % Free. The majority of our viewers are senior citizens and I believe the image and text fitted our audience

Obviously people interoperate things differently point taken! Will have the wording above the image changed. We're not here to dupe anyone. Hopefully your viewers / readers will find our free service invaluable if and when they need to dispose of unwanted stairlifts or are looking to buy used second hand stairlifts etc.

Not sure where you are heading about the Scam's or why you mentioned it?

There has been the odd occasion where sellers have been approached by low life scum trying to hoodwink potential sellers of their property and gain payments for shipping of the stairlifts. We feel it only right that our posters should be made aware that such practices exist and to be alert about certain types of transactions being offered by these low life scum-bags

Not had chance to have a good look around this site and forum, it looks very interesting and hope to contribute in many future posts debates...

Stairlift Trader

Oh,come on-I wasn't necesarily referring to the picture but the wording,which is isolated on the page



Help The Aged



Not even
help the aged, (notice,no capital letters)
It's not as if you even put it into a phrase like "we like to think we are able to help the aged",which would be less suspect but still it's obvious what you are trying to do. People aren't stupid.

I mentined the scam purely because it seems something people should know about and I can't fault you for mentioning it on your site somewhere,but I imagine after it happened someone suggested you should add it.

noonesperfect

mountainofdebt wrote: »

Hi

I too am sorry for your loss and the predicament that your mum finds herself in.

The thing is, at the moment, your mum's grief is still raw and understandably wants to remove all evidence of your dad's suffering.

However, depending on her future plans (e.g. does she plan on staying on in the property) which ideally should not be made at this precise moment in time, she herself may benefit from the use of the chair in the future.....I only say this as my aunt and late uncle had a stairlift fitted because of his ill health but now my aunt uses it because of her increasing fraility.

This sounds like good advice to me. My late parents had a stair lift fitted by Stannah. It was mainly for my Dad too, but when he passed away she used it for another 8 years until her death.
Stannah were always willing to come out at the drop of a hat and if things went wrong they were always there quickly. It really was a lifeline to Mum, she couldn't have managed without it and was glad when it was already fitted when SHE needed it.

pulliptears

Since my post in this thread, my Dad unfortunately passed away, however, without the stairlift he could not have had his wish of dying in his own home.

However.

After Dad passed away we were contacted about the lift, because it was provided for my Dad my Mum was told she could not use it, as it was not insured for her use! This was within weeks of Dad passing. Mum was understandably upset, and in the end someone from the council team had to come out and asses my Mum as to whether she could indeed keep the stairlift. Although she is generally quite fit and well, at 74 that could change fairly quickly. Luckily she was told that due to her asthma she could keep the lift, but if anyone is in a similar position and has a lift provided through a grant scheme please be aware that you are not automatically entitled to keep it after the death of the person it was for

LinasPilibaitisisbatman

The attitudes of some of the posters in this thread are awful

Yes losing a relative is a sad time, however, they agree to purchase these lifts as they need them, they are custom made and not the easiest to adapt to new houses as second hand. So why is it when the relatives who had the use of the lift as they paid for suddenly expect it to be bought back with little depreciation being charged - despite it being largely depreciated!

Its sad but the fact is these companies are not charities.

As for the person who thought that the stairlift should automatically stay in the family after the death of the intended benefactor. What a ridicolous suggestion.

pulliptears

LinasPilibaitisisbatman wrote: »

As for the person who thought that the stairlift should automatically stay in the family after the death of the intended benefactor. What a ridicolous suggestion.

Why is that ridiculous? My mother is 74 and the chances of her needing the lift at some point are high. Her health is deteriorating.

Whats the point in the company coming to her home, removing the lift and putting right the alterations, which would probably end up costing a similar amount as installing a brand new lift in 3 or 4 years time?

LinasPilibaitisisbatman

pulliptears wrote: »

Why is that ridiculous? My mother is 74 and the chances of her needing the lift at some point are high. Her health is deteriorating.

Whats the point in the company coming to her home, removing the lift and putting right the alterations, which would probably end up costing a similar amount as installing a brand new lift in 3 or 4 years time?

Because the grant was supplied to benefit someone else at the expense of the public, why should it then automatically pass to someone else when it has some value - albeit limited.

And the point is because there is no guarentee she would need one in 3/4 years and there may be someone else in that intervening period who needs the resources far more so.

At the end of the day it was supplied to your Dad for his condition, he received it, why should it have then de facto stayed in the house after his death?

Of course if its found someone else in the house needs it let it stay, however, to give a family a free stairlift through the passing of someone else is not appropriate.

pulliptears

LinasPilibaitisisbatman wrote: »

Because the grant was supplied to benefit someone else at the expense of the public, why should it then automatically pass to someone else when it has some value - albeit limited.

And the point is because there is no guarentee she would need one in 3/4 years and there may be someone else in that intervening period who needs the resources far more so.

At the end of the day it was supplied to your Dad for his condition, he received it, why should it have then de facto stayed in the house after his death?

Of course if its found someone else in the house needs it let it stay, however, to give a family a free stairlift through the passing of someone else is not appropriate.

Surely you can see that the costs incurred in removing it far outweigh the costs of leaving it where it is? It would cost the taxpayer more to come along and remove one of these lifts, especially the one in my Mums home as the work needed to return the stairway to its original state would be fairly complex.

I think common sense is needed in a lot of cases. Im not saying "yes, leave it where it is" if for example the person left in the home is fit, well and in their 40's, but in cases of the elderly, where the remaining person is very likely to need it in the near future, it makes sense not to go through the rigmarole of removal and the costs associated with that only to have to reinstall a new one 4 or 5 years down the line.

kalico

LinasPilibaitisisbatman wrote: »

Yes losing a relative is a sad time, however, they agree to purchase these lifts as they need them, they are custom made and not the easiest to adapt to new houses as second hand.
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Its sad but the fact is these companies are not charities.

I agree that these companies are not charities, but the mark up on these things seems huge. With a bit of haggling, I got the price down by over 50% from what they first quoted.

Second, I disagree that they are difficult to adapt to a second-hand fitting in another house. For some houses that is true, but for a majority that need a simple straight affair, there is minimal customisation - mainly being to cut it to length.

I considered buying second hand from Ebay but was worried that I wouldn't be able to adapt it to our house (since I thought there was a lot of customisation, as you state). However, having bought new and seen just how easily they are fitted (took the guy 20 mins max), I realise now that anyone with basic DIY skills could fit one (straight version - I've no experience of curved ones), provided they got one of sufficient length for their staircase (not hard to determine).

When my mother died, I was offered less than 20 percent of what we paid, despite it being three weeks old and used precisely three times (once by me for a test/bit of fun). Given we didn't pay the originally asked price, there remains a lot of margin for a reseller to buy and then re-install.