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heretohelp

failed on a incomplete front coil spring and all brake pipes excessively corroded.
couple of advisorys but the main one is broken rear coil spring.
does any one know how much this would cost before i start phoneing around tommorow.
car is a 03 focus 1.4

tonyh66

coil springs £110-150 each fitted
brake line £80-140 each fitted

forgotmyname

Tony must use the garage equivalent of Harrods

I paid £60 for a pair of Mondeo springs and £80 fitting by a lad who works at the garage. He did it for cash using their equipement but in his own time.
Even so £150 for a pair fitted, Laugh and go elsewhere.

£80 -£140 for each brake line? Even if its lines that go over the tank and requires it to be dropped thats a lot of money.

mcjordi

roll of brake line. about £15 couple of hours labour at about £60 so should be less than £100 tops for brake lines..

and about the same for 2 springs fitted..

shouldnt be anymore than about £200 all in..

lesalanos

can you not wire brush the brake pipes and cover in grease?

Joe_Horner

lesalanos wrote: »

can you not wire brush the brake pipes and cover in grease?

Not good advice - brake lines are failed for corrosion for a reason. They can have upwards of 1000 psi pressure in them under hard braking, and only a millimetre or so of pipe wall to hold that pressure in.

When they corrode 2 things happen: the walls get thinner AND the stresses in the pipe from that pressure get concentrated around the pits (exactly the same principle as cutting glass - damage to a surface forms "stress raisers" which weakens the material more than the simple loss of material would suggest.

Unless you look forward to the idea of brake failure just when you need them, hiding corrosion to "get a ticket" is a mug's game. And that's from someone who does all his own maintenance and cuts more corners than he'll admit to when those corners are safe!

apesxx

i paid £60 for the coil spring in my old 04 focus inc fitting. Was a small back street garage rather than main dealer.

Splott

Joe_Horner wrote: »

Not good advice - brake lines are failed for corrosion for a reason.

Most modern cars use alloy brake lines that don't corrode, not metal ones, and the corrosion is usually muck.

red_eye

heretohelp wrote: »

failed on a incomplete front coil spring and all brake pipes excessively corroded.
couple of advisorys but the main one is broken rear coil spring.
does any one know how much this would cost before i start phoneing around tommorow.
car is a 03 focus 1.4

£200+ 1 front and 1 rear coil would be around £150 and some of those brake pipes are wrapped around a fuel tank and replaced with copper pipe or am I thinking of an astra?

red_eye

Joe_Horner wrote: »

Not good advice - brake lines are failed for corrosion for a reason. They can have upwards of 1000 psi pressure in them under hard braking, and only a millimetre or so of pipe wall to hold that pressure in.

When they corrode 2 things happen: the walls get thinner AND the stresses in the pipe from that pressure get concentrated around the pits (exactly the same principle as cutting glass - damage to a surface forms "stress raisers" which weakens the material more than the simple loss of material would suggest.

Unless you look forward to the idea of brake failure just when you need them, hiding corrosion to "get a ticket" is a mug's game. And that's from someone who does all his own maintenance and cuts more corners than he'll admit to when those corners are safe!

if it is serface corrosion then there is no problem wire brushing. the brake line can handle more psi then your foot can supply. if it was bad then you would have found out a long time ago

mattyprice4004

Splott wrote: »

Most modern cars use alloy brake lines that don't corrode, not metal ones, and the corrosion is usually muck.

Most cars still use steel for one reason - cost.