Bt Pole In The Garden

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but someone told me that you can charge BT annual rent for having a telegraph pole in the garden. Is this true and if so, how do you go about it?
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  • espresso
    espresso Posts: 16,448 Forumite
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    More info about wayleave agreements here. Not a recommendation but worth a look.
    :doh: Blue text on this forum usually signifies hyperlinks, so click on them!..:wall:
  • gt94sss2
    gt94sss2 Posts: 5,996 Forumite
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    debs2205 wrote: »
    Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but someone told me that you can charge BT annual rent for having a telegraph pole in the garden. Is this true and if so, how do you go about it?

    You will probably find your land deeds give BT permission to site its telegraph pole there - especially if was there before you purchased the property.

    In these cases, there is likely to be no annual rent payable, as a previous owner would have accepted a 'one off' payment to alter the land deeds.

    Otherwise, you may be entitled to what is called a 'wayleave' payment.

    You can always ask BT:

    BT Wayleaves Scanning Office
    Communications House
    Harlescott Lane
    Shrewsbury
    SY1 3AQ
    telephone: 0800 581525

    asking if there is a wayleave agreement in existence.

    However, if you are owed any money - be aware it will only be a couple of pounds/year..

    Regards
    Sunil
  • JHWilts
    JHWilts Posts: 47 Forumite
    BT claim that some councils never needed permission. We bought an ex council house but the title deeds have no such mention but BT are saying they nevere needed permission. We want it moved as it is leaning quite sharply but they are mucking us around. Is it true they didn't need permission?
    Mortgage from £100,400 to currently £77,100 in 7 years:beer:
    Starting 2014 goal of seriously cracking my debt! If I wouldn't buy it full price - why bother in the sale :rotfl::money::T:j
  • gt94sss2 wrote: »
    You will probably find your land deeds give BT permission to site its telegraph pole there - especially if was there before you purchased the property.

    In these cases, there is likely to be no annual rent payable, as a previous owner would have accepted a 'one off' payment to alter the land deeds.

    Otherwise, you may be entitled to what is called a 'wayleave' payment.

    You can always ask BT:

    BT Wayleaves Scanning Office
    Communications House
    Harlescott Lane
    Shrewsbury
    SY1 3AQ
    telephone: 0800 581525

    asking if there is a wayleave agreement in existence.

    However, if you are owed any money - be aware it will only be a couple of pounds/year..

    Regards
    Sunil


    I worked as a planner with BT up until moving into a new job last week. I can confirm you are right in what you are saying Sunil. The previous owner will probably have accepted a wayleave payment for the pole and this should be contined in the deeds. If no wayleave exists then you will be entitled to a one-off payment of around £165 for the pole. One thing I should add though is that BT do not pay retrosective wayleave payments. If you find the pole has been there for 1 year or 50 years without a wayleave you will still only get the one-off payment.
  • del1001
    del1001 Posts: 229 Forumite
    JHWilts wrote: »
    We want it moved as it is leaning quite sharply but they are mucking us around. Is it true they didn't need permission?

    I don't know about getting it moved, but you should certainly contact BT and tell them to make it safe :eek:
  • I am going through a BT Wayleave dispute at the moment, I have pole with mine and five other peoples lines running from it in my back garden. I contacted BT wayleave dept to find out what was what, they checked to see if a wayleave existed, it didn't, so they send me a pack with an application form in it and a request for me to draw a map of the property, showing the position of pole and lines. I duely did this and sent it back, after a couple of weeks they have sent me a wayleave agreement and the offer of 145 quid as a one off payment. Bearing in mind I have had this on my property for 11 years, I pay 40 pounds a quarter, as do the other 5 people connected to the pole, I think this is day light robbery. I phoned them this morning to be informed that this nis all irelevant as the figure set and agreed by the National Farmers Union and the Country Land Owners association. So my options are take it or leave it, or they will move it. This can not be right?
  • diamonds
    diamonds Posts: 6,048 Forumite
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    Nick, dont take payment, ask BT to move it with 3 months notice ( to allow time for a contractor & completion ) if they fail to do so - sue for £5000 in civil court & get a court order from Civil Court for ruling agreement BT will remove such within a time frame as per your agreement with civil court as an acceptable time frame ( another 3 months ? ), if BT do not adhere to ruling of said Civil Court ruling they commit a criminal offence - " contempt of court " & you can contact local police after the civil court timescale lapses & BT have not done as required by court of law - police then have power, BT's CEO arrested & taken to Criminal court for failing to comply with UK law ruling
    SO... now England its the Scots turn to say dont leave the UK, stay in Europe with us in the UK, dont let the tories fool you like they did us with empty lies... You will be leaving the UK aswell as Europe ;)
  • is this the same for power line poles? i have 2 in my garden for some reason.??

    i recently asked about a second supply to the house and they wanted to charge a small fortune for this so i left it. could i take a 'fit me a 2nd supply or remove your poles stand'?
  • iniltous
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    I think if you get your telephone service from the pole (regardless of the service provider) then you wont be entitled to a wayleave payment,
  • fuzzyf
    fuzzyf Posts: 30 Forumite
    iniltous wrote: »
    I think if you get your telephone service from the pole (regardless of the service provider) then you wont be entitled to a wayleave payment,

    i think that is correct

    ask them to run an underground cable from the pole before your property, to a junction box(bt66) on your property. not sure if they will but worth a try.
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