Why the HELL is it wrong to pay ON the Train???

giraffe69

hes not al capone. first offence wud be no more than £150 + costs or pass some shekles to toc and settle out of court £75-100 MAX greedy toc's

wots the wages like @SWT

They require basic English fluency so you won't get the job.

Stigy

geordie_taxi wrote: »

the scaremongering in strong in WW post



eh no he will get either a penalty fare or be asked to buy a undiscounted ticket



hes not al capone. first offence wud be no more than £150 + costs or pass some shekles to toc and settle out of court £75-100 MAX greedy toc's



utter b****x

A Disclosure Scotland Check (a Basic CRB) will disclose all unspent Convictions (not cautions).

A Standard CRB will disclose all spent and unspent convictions plus cautions, warnings & reprimands.

An Enhanced CRB will disclose all spent and unspent convictions plus cautions, warnings & reprimands PLUS will check the "barred" lists plus in rare situations relevant information held by the Police but where there was no conviction.

The type of check an employer does will depend on the nature of the job although many employers do Standard or Enhanced CRBs where there is no legal authority to do them.

Byelaw offences are not Criminal Offences and will not show up on any CRB type check


PS.... stigy just incase i fancy a career change wots the wages like @SWT

Byelaws are criminal offences, they're just non recordable on PNC. This basically means that there's no paper trail once convicted, so you're at least right about one thing in that such a conviction won't show up on a CRB. That's not say you shouldn't disclose, if asked if you've ever been convicted of a criminal offence, because you'd be lying if you said you hadn't. Regulation of Railways Act 1889 offences are recordable and do show up on a CRB check. That appears to be the only thing you're right about though, most of the other stuff is rubbish and shouldn't relied up on. For example, a first offence wouldn't necessarily only be £150 plus costs and (although it sometimes is), although no prison or a £5,000 fine, depending on your means, the fine could be £1,000 plus costs and compensation etc. Typically half the average weekly wage for a Byelaw, or the equivalent of the average weekly wage for a Regulation of Railways Act 1889 offence.

As for the job, why don't you email them? I'm sure they're game for a laugh....

will.i.amnt

Oh, and by the way - no ticket = uninsured.

That train comes off the rails, your arms come off = tough titty.

Now, that WOULD be funny.

geordie_taxi

Stigy wrote: »

Byelaws are criminal offences, they're just non recordable on PNC. This basically means that there's no paper trail once convicted, so you're at least right about one thing in that such a conviction won't show up on a CRB. That's not say you shouldn't disclose, if asked if you've ever been convicted of a criminal offence, because you'd be lying if you said you hadn't. Regulation of Railways Act 1889 offences are recordable and do show up on a CRB check. That appears to be the only thing you're right about though, most of the other stuff is rubbish and shouldn't relied up on. For example, a first offence wouldn't necessarily only be £150 plus costs and (although it sometimes is), although no prison or a £5,000 fine, depending on your means, the fine could be £1,000 plus costs and compensation etc. Typically half the average weekly wage for a Byelaw, or the equivalent of the average weekly wage for a Regulation of Railways Act 1889 offence.

so no crb for byelaw no £5000 fine and no jail so that post i replied to was scaremongering. thank you for confirming that

Stigy wrote: »

As for the job, why don't you email them? I'm sure they're game for a laugh....

email sent name dropped u hope u dont mind

will.i.amnt wrote: »

Oh, and by the way - no ticket = uninsured.

That train comes off the rails, your arms come off = tough titty.

Now, that WOULD be funny.

im sure an ambulance chasing no win no fee lawyer wud disagree with u there.

Toc = $$$$ to them and the toc wud seek to settle out of court

giraffe69 wrote: »

They require basic English fluency so you won't get the job.

hold on there tiger i wudnt be going for a managing directors job but something unskilled ie driver or guard

Hasbeen

hold on there tiger i wudnt be going for a managing directors job but something unskilled ie driver or guard

Unskilled? drivers at 40-50k a year, guards at circa 30k? I think they do have some skills?

Jeff_Bridges_hair

Why do people engage with Geordie exile who has even admitted in this thread he takes the Mick? And in other threads admits to fare dodging. Don't give him the time of day

geordie_taxi

Jeff_Bridges_hair wrote: »

Why do people engage with Geordie exile who has even admitted in this thread he takes the Mick? And in other threads admits to fare dodging. Don't give him the time of day

after u have finished ur tantrum and pick up all the toys u throw out of your pram. i said before i dont advocating fare dodging infact as ive told many a user on this and other forums i always have a valid ticket for travel so im not a faredodger

u just dont like the idea that i bring a more balance prospective to the debate and one which isnt based on scaremongering

dacouch

Hasbeen wrote: »

hold on there tiger i wudnt be going for a managing directors job but something unskilled ie driver or guard

Unskilled? drivers at 40-50k a year, guards at circa 30k? I think they do have some skills?

Or Unions who can bring the country to a stop.

LimeLight

I've also found having a ticket has this amazing ability to be able to get a paid-for taxi home if your connecting train is late or the lift is out of use.

Stigy

geordie_taxi wrote: »

email sent name dropped u hope u dont mind

Why would I mind? Even if I did work for them? :beer: