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My gripes on houses in London (aside from being expensive)

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  • wotsthat
    wotsthat Posts: 11,325 Forumite
    filcanmike wrote: »
    LOL sorry guys. No offense meant.

    No problems - just don't let chewmylegoff see your spelling of 'offense'.

    He's in the apostrophe police. He doesn't have an issue with using capital letters correctly so you might get away with it.

    Hopefully he won't labor the point.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    I have a dishwasher in both the flat in zone 2 London I rent out and the house in Surrey I live in. A good dishwasher is a good alternative to handwashing in energy/water usage terms.

    I don't have a tumble dryer in either. Laundry can be dried easily, environmentally and very cheaply (free or with help from a dehumidifier during wet periods) without one. I had one in Sydney (it's a legal requirement for flats to have them in Sydney City to stop people from using their balconies) and used it about 3 times in 5 years. Admittedly, due to more wet days, If I had one in the UK I'd use it more. If I had children I'd consider getting one but the line/airer would still be first choice. Not only are tumble dryers not very economical but I have it in my mind that they reduce the life expectancy of clothes??

    My OH is from Denmark. His biggest 'aren't you Brits old-fashioned?' thing is our love of baths. However, I made the poor boy indulge in that other British obsession, DIY, and when he was all aches and pains he softened to the concept of the occasional soothing, relaxing bath!!

    Glad you're enjoying the UK, OP. As others have said, it's the little differences...
    I thought Australia was a rather "Green" nation.
    Seems odd forcing people to have rather inefficient electrical goods jut to make balconies look tidier.
    Just shows how corrupt a lot of this "environment" rubbish is.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    filcanmike wrote: »
    Hmm.... I may have forgotten to take into account those that live in isolated farming communities or very small towns, and First Nations reserves (first nations is what we call the Native population like Inuits, Metis, etc.). But in the urban areas, I am sure it will be closer to 95%.

    I have to admit that living outside North America is quite a life-learning experience. It makes me want to go to rural India or China and experience life of squat toilets and no toilet paper. It makes you see that different people from different places have different ideas of what constitute "basic necessities".

    Living anywhere new for those that have not is a learning experience. It's good to take to your life, where ever it maybe, the bits you like and replace those things you have been brought up with with ideas more suited to you from elsewhere.

    Fwiw, you might have gained similarly revelationary experiences living in a different area of north America or Canada, in a rural community for example.

    Dh and I have totally different experince of the States for example, his being new York city and washington centric and mine being east and west southern states, and central southern states. But so are our london's, both central zone, his north London with a certain political and socioeconimic expectation, mine west London, with different cultural, political and professional expectations.

    People are people whereever we go, expectations and hopes are based pretty much on needs and hopes and wants, but how we approach their fulfilment and find our place inthem is beautifully varied.

    I never used a tumble dryer before university, I don't remember having one, but we may have had one in childhood homes,
    Articulately when posted in condos I guess, but I don't remember them. I have been quite happy without a dishwasher, but have admit, I didn't feel moved to make jams so often without using the dishwasher as a steriliser. I also think things feel cleaner, and for me, it's cheaper than washing up by hand. It takes an age though, to do a cycle.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    filcanmike wrote: »
    Hmm.... I may have forgotten to take into account those that live in isolated farming communities or very small towns, and First Nations reserves (first nations is what we call the Native population like Inuits, Metis, etc.). But in the urban areas, I am sure it will be closer to 95%.

    I have to admit that living outside North America is quite a life-learning experience. It makes me want to go to rural India or China and experience life of squat toilets and no toilet paper. It makes you see that different people from different places have different ideas of what constitute "basic necessities".

    A relative of mine used to let out properties to first generation migrants, in an inner city, back in the 70s and would often them using one of the rooms as a "toilet" rather than the toilet.

    The National Trust, here, will rent you holiday cottages with earth closets.

    I would have thought Canadian wildernesses would have their own "back to basics" experiences.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    silvercar wrote: »
    Think your dishwasher is rubbish. I never have that problem.
    silvercar wrote: »
    I wash out the drain thingummy occasionally.

    We rarely swill plates and our dishwasher will only "dirty" the plates if we haven't cleaned the thingummy for a long time. In fact it is usually the prompt to clean it.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • I would have thought Canadian wildernesses would have their own "back to basics" experiences.
    Ahh yes, camping -- the popular pasttime where people pitch tents and pretend it's the 1700's (or pretend they're homeless). Unfortunately though, a growing number of people are going to campgrounds with RVs loaded with dishwashers and dryers, which defeats the purpose of camping.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    ILW wrote: »
    I find that most people in smaller household only tend to use a dishwasher when it is full. This means the dirty stuff can sit in there for days getting rather smelly.

    Also you tend to find if you have run out of an item like a cereal bowl, will tend to take it out of the washer and rinse it in the sink rather than wait for a whole wash cycle.

    Seems more bother than it is worth for the sake of 5 minutes to wash up what you have just used.

    I know what you mean about it taking an age to fill up if you don't have a family using it. We had to buy extra cutlery and dinner service items when we had our first dishwasher too.

    The major pain with s dishwasher is having to unload the thing once clean, especially if you fill them over several days, in dribs and drabs.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • abankerbutnotafatcat
    abankerbutnotafatcat Posts: 1,161 Forumite
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    edited 31 December 2012 at 5:45PM
    ILW wrote: »
    I thought Australia was a rather "Green" nation.
    Seems odd forcing people to have rather inefficient electrical goods jut to make balconies look tidier.
    Just shows how corrupt a lot of this "environment" rubbish is.

    It's a much more water conscious nation than the UK (and probably the rest of Europe) and as a result of that being drummed into me I'm always annoying the OH by switching off the running water when he brushes his teeth!!

    But other than a scarcity of fresh water, Aus resembles the US rather than Europe in geography and its love of aircon and big-litred cars reflects this. I think Aus and the USA were the only two western nations to hold out on signing the original Kyoto protocol.

    BTW the balcony rule was just for City of Sydney (population 177,000) residents I.e. the city centre (zone 1 in London terms). That doesn't change the point you rightly query but does limit the scale.
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    It's a much more water conscious nation than the UK (and probably the rest of Europe) and as a result of that being drummed into me I'm always annoying the OH by switching off the running water when he brushes his teeth!!

    But other than a scarcity of fresh water, Aus resembles the US rather than Europe in geography and its love of aircon and big-litred cars reflects this. I think Aus and the USA were the only two western nations to hold out on signing the original Kyoto protocol.

    Uk's approach to water is considered lamentable in southern Europe.

    Much like comparing metropolitan Canada to rural Canada and expected a cohesive result, it's a sure way to irate brits...to refer to us as part of a cohesive Europe. Parts of southern Europe water conservation is taken immensely seriously.
  • ILW
    ILW Posts: 18,333 Forumite
    Uk's approach to water is considered lamentable in southern Europe.

    Much like comparing metropolitan Canada to rural Canada and expected a cohesive result, it's a sure way to irate brits...to refer to us as part of a cohesive Europe. Parts of southern Europe water conservation is taken immensely seriously.
    UK does seem to have too much water at the moment.
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