Advice req council flats

Gentile

paddedjohn wrote: »

The benefit system was not designed to help people is this type of situation at all, it was designed as a safety net for people who need help when they are hungry and need a roof over their heads. The OP is already living in a house but WANTS to move, there is a vast difference.

I have to disagree with you there. I would rather my money was spent to uplift a person's life and give them a chance at achieving some sort of independence. I would most definitely not want my tax to fund some work shy telly watching person who wants to stay in a council house all his life.

nannytone_2

social services can put a care package in place to help the OP ;ive independantly.

just because someone is disabled, doesnt mean they dont have the same dreams and aspirations as any non disabled person!

i am 40 years old, registered blind and dependant on benefits.

should i have to move back in with my parents?

there is a big difference between the disabled and the unemployed.
the unemployed always have a chanve that their circumstances will improve.

for many disabled people, this isnt an ption ) which in istself is hard to accept)
we are pn the whole, in the positions we find ourselves through no fault of our own, are we not entitled to a certain quality of life, or should we have to be grateful for being allowed to exist?

i'm sorry that i'm rantingm but it makes me so angry when people go on ablout all the 'extra benefits' that disabled people get.
our day to day costs are higher, and many of us receive very little in the way of extra cash payments.

but i do get socia; services funding for a PA. that is what makes the difference. and the help is also available to the OP

Mara69

Gentile wrote: »

I hope you do get a house and are able to live on your own but sadly I think all social housing has been gobbled up by perfectly fine able bodied people who refuse to vacate the council house now that they have no need for it.

You talk absolute crap.

McKneff

Nannytone, I am so sorry, I had no idea you were so young, my dauthter is just your age and had cataracts operated on also my son in their early thirties. , while I dont by any means patronise you. Life sucks, life and fate makes me so angry at times. I want to swear, I want to say !!!!!!!!, but it wont make things any better. I get so angry with life sometimes. grrrr.

At the same time, I firmly beleive that we suffer with one,we are always compensated with another, perhaps yours is helping people, and passing on your knowledge, I dont know, you know we have sight problems in our family so I am not being patronising, but things make me so angry when people take so much for granted. grrr

Gentile

Mara69 wrote: »

You talk absolute crap.

Ummm..okay !

iluvmarmite

pocketstrings wrote: »

isn't that a bit harsh, padded john and iluvmarmite? (genuine question) I'm in my mid thirties, very seriously disabled with no hope of cure or improvement, completely unable to work, basically living in a bedroom at a parents' /very/ small house. I may be wrong, but I thought I had more hope of, say, housing benefit than you say. If, after all, there are plenty of people in work, albeit on small wages, who claim housing benefit or council houses? One could say they should move back to their parents' until the day they die. Maybe that is what you say, I don't know, that seems the only logical extension to your argument. I mean that genuinely, I'm not picking a fight, I don't have the strength.

I don't think I was harsh, someone stated that social housing was designed for people like yourself, i.e disabled, and that is not the case, is was designed for everyone who needs a roof over their heads, families, single vulnerable people, the homeless etc. There is a dire shortage of social housing and once you leave one you are stuffed as you won't get another one, you can go on the waiting list but that's where you will stay for basically ever.

It was said by a poster that the housing stock has been gobbled up by those refusing to leave them, is that poster really expecting someone to just up and leave a secure home because others want it? I don't think that will ever happen.

OP the council or housing association will look at your case, they will see you have a roof over your head, that you are safe, yes the house you live in now is very small and cramped, you may not get on with your Mum, you may be sleeping on a sofa, whatever, they will still see it as you having a place to live and not being on the street so won't class you as an urgent case.

My daughter, her husband and 2 small kids got evicted from their private rent due to the landlord selling, they came to stay with us in our 1 bed flat, the kids were squashed in with us, top to tale in our bedroom, daughter and son in law slept on an air bed in the living room, the HA did not want to know as they were not homeless so they had to go private again.

seven-day-weekend

iluvmarmite wrote: »

Social housing was designed as affordable housing for those in need, not just for the disabled, I would never vacate my HA flat unless I won the lottery and could afford to by a house outright.

Why would anyone leave a secure house to maybe go private rented with the risk of the landlord wanting the house back at some point and them having to constantly move?

Actually Council Housing originally was for anyone who wanted it, you went on a list and when you got to the top of a list you were offered a place.

Now of course it is such a scarce resource that it is based upon need. What constitutes need is open to debate.

nannytone_2

McKneff wrote: »

Nannytone, I am so sorry, I had no idea you were so young, my dauthter is just your age and had cataracts operated on also my son in their early thirties. , while I dont by any means patronise you. Life sucks, life and fate makes me so angry at times. I want to swear, I want to say !!!!!!!!, but it wont make things any better. I get so angry with life sometimes. grrrr.

At the same time, I firmly beleive that we suffer with one,we are always compensated with another, perhaps yours is helping people, and passing on your knowledge, I dont know, you know we have sight problems in our family so I am not being patronising, but things make me so angry when people take so much for granted. grrr

bit of a typo... im actually 49.

im not complaining abiout my disability. ive had it all my life, and am used to it and know no different.

it just annoys me when people think the diabled are no different from any other group that dont work.

the OP wants a bit of ondependance and a life of their own.
paddedjohn says ,,,, you have somewhere to live, so stop complaining!

im just pointing out that the expectations and desires of the disabled are no different to anyone elses, and to expect us to be grateful for what we have rather than expect some quality of life, is unfair

pocketstrings

i'm so glad to see your post, nannytone. i have to admit i had to stop looking at the thread for advice as i seemed to be getting quite a few brickbats which i in my fragile condition and state i could not handle at that time. or now, really.

what some posters also do not seem to realise is that you can be housed in a situation which makes your condition worse. for example, i am very severely physcially disabled and in house i sleep in the top floor attic rooms so it is often difficult for me to get to the toilet. also, as i mentioned i don't always get on with the person whose house it is (who often doesn't talk to me for months on end etc) and as i have a long history of severe clinical depression and being suicical this often triggers very serious bouts of that. at the time i posted the thread i was also googling methods to kill myself due to the situation.

i wasn't saying my need was greatest but i did want genuinely offered practical advice. i'd still like some if anyone cares to offer it. i just ask you to be gentle and remember i did not invent the system. i also did not asked to be left severely, incurably disabled and housebound from my early twenties through no fault of my own. i had also worked hard and paid tax all my life up until then and expected to do so all my life. i wish i could now.

please also remember that severely disabled people do have some right of some kind to expect some quality of life, and maybe not to have to crash at a parents' house their whole life.

Prinzessilein

iluvmarmite wrote: »

There is a dire shortage of social housing and once you leave one you are stuffed as you won't get another one, you can go on the waiting list but that's where you will stay for basically ever...........

OP the council or housing association will look at your case, they will see you have a roof over your head, that you are safe, yes the house you live in now is very small and cramped, you may not get on with your Mum, you may be sleeping on a sofa, whatever, they will still see it as you having a place to live and not being on the street so won't class you as an urgent case.

Not necessarily. I was in Social Housing until the beginning of this year. I am disabled, the Housing Association had adaptions made to the place for me.

However, my needs changed. I was unable to live independently in that property. I applied to the Council and got the highest banding on their HomeChoice scheme.

I was on the waiting list for a couple of months until a suitable, Sheltered Flat became available.

The Council examined my case and determined my need - the fact that I already had a roof over my head did not hinder my application. The banding is based on need.

Pocketstrings - good luck in getting housed somewhere suitable.