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Baby Boomers at it Again
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Graham_Devon wrote: »Well that appears to be you lot!
Have you actually read the slurs on this thread towards the young!?
Only redressing the balance. Fight fire with fire. I never saw much overt ageism on this forum until a few leftist idiots decided to start all this anti-boomer claptrap. It should get better once the schools go back -- in the daytime at least.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
GeorgeHowell wrote: »Only redressing the balance. Fight fire with fire. I never saw much overt ageism on this forum until a few leftist idiots decided to start all this anti-boomer claptrap. It should get better once the schools go back -- in the daytime at least.
I'm not sure they are all leftist0 -
All because the boomer generation will not be told their pensions are unaffordable.
Well you're telling them, but they don't accept or believe it to be true. It's the just the embittered ramblings of the "I want it all NOW, Mum" generation.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
ruggedtoast wrote: »Listen sister, you boomers have had the lions share of the housing wealth pie, and now you want the younger generations to move to Stoke in penance for your sins.
Priceless.
Al this disrepectful terminology aimed at a female poster indicates that we many have a sexist as well as an ageist here -- certainly all the hallmarks of a deeply unpleasant individual on the other end of these posts.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
I'm not sure they are all leftist
Correct, there's one right wing extremist nutter who probably wants to privatise the Army.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
George, what exactly is it that you want younger people to do?
Your hurling insults around, but not sure why.0 -
seven-day-weekend wrote: »My son was one of those first-time buyers mentioned in the article, in February 2012, with the help of a substantial deposit from the Bank of Mum and Dad.
Every single first-time-buyer I know of in the last few years has had help this way, or from the Bank of Grandparents, or a lump sum from an inheritance or in one case a hefty private income from the estate of a deceased rich relative.
It seems to be the norm these days as far as I see it.
And one of my sons will complete in the next 2 weeks, again, with a sizeable portion of his deposit from the Bank of Mum & Dad, and we have 3 more behind him.
Three who have already graduated, with us covering a big portion of the Uni costs (albeit that they still have big student loans because they did long courses and Post Grad LPC courses) and the last one coming up to AS level and thinking about doing Medicine.....
So, no prospect of early retirement for us. Not that we begrudge them any of it, or we would have chosen not to have any children. Not sure we are definitively boomers though age wise!!0 -
Clifford_Pope wrote: »I don't understand this inter-generational antagonism and envy, nor the stigmatising of certain generations as hard-working or selfish. Nor do I understand the implied criticism in the use of such phrases as "bank of mum and dad".
To me the family is a constant entity usually consisting of about 3 generations at any one time, moving onwards down the ages. Anything I have materially is not "mine", as neither was it my parents'. And anything I pass to my children will not be "theirs" but a kind of trust, to use for the support and enrichment of their lives in the same way as I used it for mine.
Over the generations the family has sometimes been wider and more extended than now, but always there have been some doing better and some needing support, some needing a leg up in early life, some needing assistance in old age.
When my father gave me a small deposit on a house 40 years ago he wasn't dipping into "bank of mum and dad", any more than I am if I do the same for my children, in whatever way they need - education, housing, or anything else worthwhile. It's family self help, and in my opinion laudable and to be encouraged.
This is how we see it too.:T0 -
Graham_Devon wrote: »George, what exactly is it that you want younger people to do?
Your hurling insults around, but not sure why.
The insults are aimed at the idiots who post all this ageist rubbish in order to get a reaction and hopefully upset the older posters. In reality of course there are good and bad in all generations.
Everything said in this context is a generalisation of course. But I do believe that a large proportion of younger people (say under 40) cannot grasp the concept of building up a standard of living and feel entitled to have everything they are ever going to have now. That is not the real world, I'm afraid, but it can be explained in part by the fact that misguided parenting by their parents -- predominantly the boomers -- allowed them to grow up with this perception : if you ask for something you get it immediately.
Of course the baby boomers have been a lucky generation in many ways, though they have not all had it as easy all their lives as some like to make out. Nevertheless a great many can and do help younger relative financially and in other ways, and most are very keen to leave legacies to them. I know some who are more or less obsessed with it. I don't believe that all the ageist embitterment expressed by a few twits on this forum is as prevalent in the real world as reading their posts may indicate, but it exists. The younger generation will do best to make their own way in life as best they can, and to gently ask for -- not demand -- help where they legitimately need it, then to receive and accept it gratefully and gracefully when they get it -- as many of them already do.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
GeorgeHowell wrote: »Everything said in this context is a generalisation of course. But I do believe that a large proportion of younger people (say under 40) cannot grasp the concept of building up a standard of living and feel entitled to have everything they are ever going to have now. That is not the real world, I'm afraid, but it can be explained in part by the fact that bad parenting by their parents - predominantly the boomers -- allowed them to grow up with this perception : if you ask for something you get it immediately.
Would it be fair to suggest that most people will have wanted to settle by the age of 40?
Would it be fair to say most of those who are now classed as boomers, even the "working class" coud have done this easier than now?
I don't know where you get the idea that because some of the younger generation are suggesting it's hard today, they are "demanding" something?0
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