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Large house - looking to rent it out

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  • As others have stated the property would be subject to mandatory licensing as a HMO if there are five or more people (in two households ie not related) in the property as it is three storeys.

    Even if you were to let four bedrooms to individuals you would still have a HMO it would no longer be subject to mandatory licensing (but would still may require some of the items mentioned surrounding fire safety etc again check the council website).

    Some areas are subject to additional and selective licensing for other HMOs you need to check your council website to see if this is the case.

    Generally rent for this type of accommodation is inclusive of bills and council tax which is usually paid by the landlord.
  • G_M
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    Generally rent for this type of accommodation is inclusive of bills and council tax which is usually paid by the landlord.
    I believe the landlord IS legally responsible for council tax if the property is an HMO.
  • 00ec25
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    an HMO is defined by the number of households as well as number of people in occupation. Legally an HMO is a property with two or more households in residence which share basic facilities eg: kitchen & bathroom. (Note there are further definitions dealing with bedsits and flat conversions)

    mandatory licence applies for a 3 storey property with 2 or more households and a minimum of 5 people
    below that level then it is at the discretion of each council to exercise selective licensing.

    note also that the definition of HMO for licensing purposes is not the same as that for council tax. For CT purposes an HMO is created as soon as there are 2 households in place. The LL is then the only person liable for paying CT, not the tenant. Clearly how the LL recovers that cost is down to them
    roses wrote: »
    If you let this as a 4 bed house to either sharers [STRIKE]or a family[/STRIKE], it is not an HMO.
    WRONG - it is an HMO if let to sharers (but not if let to a single family) but it may not need to be licensed if selective licensing is not in place in that area.

    where tenants are sharing the property on a joint tenancy they all comprise one single household

    but where they are on individual agreements then each tenant comprises a household (in this context a couple renting the same room on one agreement = one household) so you could have 3 people but 2 households
  • red40
    red40 Posts: 264 Forumite
    00ec25 wrote: »
    an HMO is defined by the number of households as well as number of people in occupation. Legally an HMO is a property with two or more households in residence which share basic facilities eg: kitchen & bathroom. (Note there are further definitions dealing with bedsits and flat conversions)

    mandatory licence applies for a 3 storey property with 2 or more households and a minimum of 5 people
    below that level then it is at the discretion of each council to exercise selective licensing.

    note also that the definition of HMO for licensing purposes is not the same as that for council tax. For CT purposes an HMO is created as soon as there are 2 households in place. The LL is then the only person liable for paying CT, not the tenant. Clearly how the LL recovers that cost is down to them

    WRONG - it is an HMO if let to sharers (but not if let to a single family) but it may not need to be licensed if selective licensing is not in place in that area.

    where tenants are sharing the property on a joint tenancy they all comprise one single household


    but where they are on individual agreements then each tenant comprises a household (in this context a couple renting the same room on one agreement = one household) so you could have 3 people but 2 households

    I was agreeing with your post 00ec25 until I got to the bolt type you quoted which is incorrect. Tenancy agreements have nothing to do with HMO definitions, nowhere in sec254 to sec257 does it refer to tenancy agreements or the like.

    As you started off with your post its to do with households and persons which is what people should be counting.
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