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Talk of raising the cap on care home fees

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  • What he said......

    Between us DH and I have three parents with Dementia/Alzheimer's - we intended to have both my parents live with us when only my mum had been diagnosed, but before we completed work on an annexe for them my dad was diagnosed too......there's no way on this earth that DH and I, despite only being in our 40s, would be able to care for them both adequately :( Instead their house has had to be sold to pay their crippling fees - but at least they are getting far better (professional) care than we could give.......

    Curiously though, even though DH's dad's condition is not as advanced as my dad's, he gets his fees paid because he had to be sectioned - he just tops them up in order to be in a better home than the LA would provide......this doesn't seem right somehow :o

    Agree with what you say of course, Phoebe. But a little friendly tip -- using Mumsnet abbreviations on this forum is likely to earn you vilification, and they are best avoided.
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  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Agree with what you say of course, Phoebe. But a little friendly tip -- using Mumsnet abbreviations on this forum is likely to earn you vilification, and they are best avoided.

    Didn't know you frequented Mumsnet too... ;)
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  • GeorgeHowell
    GeorgeHowell Posts: 2,739 Forumite
    edited 31 December 2012 at 1:27PM
    Didn't know you frequented Mumsnet too... ;)

    Ha ha

    In the interests of humorously de-bunking it, someone recently drew our attention to a 100+ posts thread, whereby a worried mother had asked for help and advice regarding having discovered that her 14 year old daughter had started surreptitiously carrying out an extreme form of intimate personal grooming. The mother concerned had apparently disregarded the obvious explanation for this, and was concerned only over it being perceived as age-inappropriate. A quick scan of some of the posts made even the most dimwitted and loony-tune posters on this forum look intellectually gifted by comparison. Mumsnet is a truly dreadful, dreadful website !
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

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  • Mojisola wrote: »
    I know in some areas the council funded homes are good but I wouldn't want to have to live in the ones I've looked at round here. I would consider that the people in them are suffering and, without the capital to move somewhere better, they're stuck there.

    Having visited may care homes, which let us be honest are mainly full of old women; my over riding sensation was that they were making the best of it, but were saddened by the paucity of contact with their family - especially the grand/great grand children.
  • Agree with what you say of course, Phoebe. But a little friendly tip -- using Mumsnet abbreviations on this forum is likely to earn you vilification, and they are best avoided.

    :rotfl: Thanks for the heads up, GH - although have to say I don't frequent Mumsnet myself but actually picked up that abbreviation from the House Buying/Selling forum here :rotfl:
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  • Mojisola
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    Having visited may care homes, which let us be honest are mainly full of old women; my over riding sensation was that they were making the best of it, but were saddened by the paucity of contact with their family - especially the grand/great grand children.

    The levels of family visiting is very sad. Over Christmas my Dad had some of his children, half a dozen grandchildren, the newest great-grandchild and one of his siblings visit and it raised comments from other residents and staff as being unusual.

    I was unhappy with the cheaper homes I looked at for several reasons but one of the biggest was the lack of interaction between the staff and the residents.

    On the same day, I visited one home where the smell of urine hit you as soon as you entered the door and all the residents were sitting in chairs around the outside of a big room with a TV on but the sound turned down while two carers stood to one side talking to each other.

    I then went to another where the residents are divided into small "families" and each family has its own sitting and dining room and carers who interact the whole time with the residents and know their small group really well.

    The level of need of the residents of the two homes was very similar but the extra £100+ a week the second home charges means they can provide slightly higher staff ratios and better staff training which also leads to better staff retention.
  • cavework
    cavework Posts: 1,992 Forumite
    PaulF81 wrote: »
    The amount of money thrown at pensioners makes the oveseas aid budget look like chicken feed. Its just not comparable. And you could argue, any chance the OA budget has to mold the future of the UK is a far better investment than pouring it into a demographic who will be largely dead in the next 10 years.
    and one day you may be included in that demographic , perhaps then your opinion may have changed a bit.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    cavework wrote: »
    and one day you may be included in that demographic , perhaps then your opinion may have changed a bit.

    He will be complaining about the young-uns then :) I wonder what those 60 surviving Battle of Britain pilots would make of this modern day Biggles icon9.gif
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