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Tolls 'could pay for new roads'...

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  • kabayiri
    kabayiri Posts: 22,740 Forumite
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    Road tolls will come. The state will need the income, and it's a captive market.

    I'm sure if we went back a few decades ago and canvassed people on the idea of a London congestion charge scheme, the response would be mostly incredulity.

    Expectations can and do change.
  • Thrugelmir
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    my concern is that we stop spending more money than we raise through taxation as a matter of urgency.

    So easy to say. Far more difficult to implement.
  • Thrugelmir
    Thrugelmir Posts: 89,546 Forumite
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    why else would apple be sitting on the best part of $100bn otherwise (IIRC).

    Manufacturing wise. High tech components are manufactured in the USA an shipped to China for assembly. Resulting in a gross margin of over 50% on many product lines.

    Then minimising their Corporate Tax liabilities on a global scale and keeping their cash off shore. This in itself creates a problem in distributing to shareholders.
  • Thrugelmir
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    BertieUK wrote: »
    Being reasonable for a moment, his medicine has been very bitter to take and the general public do not their taste buds distroyed, if he had been a little less severe then we might take the medicine more willingly.

    Are we getting softer these days? Recessions aren't painless to deal with. There's a fair probability things could worse before they get better. Unless a tighter squeeze is applied.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Manufacturing wise. High tech components are manufactured in the USA an shipped to China for assembly. Resulting in a gross margin of over 50% on many product lines.

    Then minimising their Corporate Tax liabilities on a global scale and keeping their cash off shore. This in itself creates a problem in distributing to shareholders.

    Heart bleeds.

    Which means we are paying through the nose for the products. Well not me obviously.

    I don't know whether we should blame the brand owners or the gullible who buy the stuff.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • Heart bleeds.

    Which means we are paying through the nose for the products. Well not me obviously.

    I don't know whether we should blame the brand owners or the gullible who buy the stuff.

    Exactly, you have the choice. Whereas when it comes to funding the public sector you have no choice, other than to emigrate. That should be a much greater concern.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • BertieUK
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    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Are we getting softer these days? Recessions aren't painless to deal with. There's a fair probability things could worse before they get better. Unless a tighter squeeze is applied.

    If we are all getting softer these days I beg to differ.

    Things will get worse before they get better that is for sure, we all realize that in the period to the next election no Government policies however severe would clean the slate, that is impossible, but his 'bed side manner' could be very much improved...

    ....he delivers his medicine with that 'condescending supercilious sneer' upon his face which for me, is downgrading.....

    and will not do his party any favours, its a shame really because he is going to strangle the life out of the wrong people and still be left with a mountain to climb.
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Exactly, you have the choice. Whereas when it comes to funding the public sector you have no choice, other than to emigrate. That should be a much greater concern.

    If I want to live in this great land I doubt very much whether it would be a much cheaper providing all the services, that one might require, under my own steam.

    If I choose not to have those services and emigrate to a cheaper tax area, again I doubt as a normal man in the street, I would actually be much better off by the time I had paid top ups for the things I need from an independent provider.

    Truly discretionary spend on items of self gratification are a lot easier to eliminate.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • Thrugelmir
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    BertieUK wrote: »
    ....he delivers his medicine with that 'condescending supercilious sneer' upon his face which for me, is downgrading.....

    Never seen or met the man in person. So I reserve judgement.

    I assume that your not a great fan of Ed Balls either then.
  • BertieUK
    BertieUK Posts: 1,701 Forumite
    Thrugelmir wrote: »
    Never seen or met the man in person. So I reserve judgement.

    I assume that your not a great fan of Ed Balls either then.

    I am not a great fan either of the present serving Ministers as they only think of their themselves.
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