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Wannabe MPs Dry Up As Cons Tipped To Lose Election 2015
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Fewer politicians of all kinds would be a blessing. We should be innately suspicious of anyone (particularly anyone under 40) who gets up on his hind legs and preaches to us that he or she knows the answers to all our problems.
GeorgeHowell said ...There will of course be exceptions but the vast majority seem to be motivated by a desire for self-agrandissment, or by what they can get out of it, or both.
Being a person who does not understand politics in depth like many of you learned people do, who I respect, what confuses me with Politics is, when there is a Cabinet Shuffle wherby ministers are moved from their present post to another, how on earth do they know who goes where? Is it like game of chess?
How on earth can you put a Minister in charge of Education when the truth is he has no more clues than I have in running schools and Universities and teachers lives, then you get Ministers of Defence etc whereby for any Senior position I would think that you should have earned this position and have a great knowledge of how it works.
And the NHS who but only professional medical staff should be the judge of how it should operate, and how it should be run, not some charmer who looks the part and is following a script written by someone else, and who works for a boss who demands to get two for the price of one like he does in his supermarket, so that he can then half their budget.
Is it a case of if the suit fits wear it? Sorry if I appear a little dumb about this issue but it really is astonishing to believe how we hope to win sometimes with who is nominated to run, advise and control these important positions.0 -
Wannabe MPs Dry Up as expense fiddles disappear.
Pretty soon a prospective political career will only be attractive to people with 3 houses already.
1) One to rent out to a fellow MP
2) One as a main residence - in that place you have to visit briefly twice a month to meet your plebby constituents.
3) One as a London residence - preferably very close to Westminster so that you can attend briefly to 'get your vote in' so that it looks like you are doing something.
Oh hang on.............US housing: it's not a bubble - Moneyweek Dec 12, 20050 -
Being a person who does not understand politics in depth like many of you learned people do, who I respect, what confuses me with Politics is, when there is a Cabinet Shuffle wherby ministers are moved from their present post to another, how on earth do they know who goes where? Is it like game of chess?
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I'm afraid that's just about right. Now and again you get someone with a bit of relevant knowledge or experience but, by and large, a minister is minister of X until he is appointed minister of Y, at the whim of the PM.
The theory is that the minister sets broad policy along the lines outlined by his party when it won the election and he is guided by civil servants as to the practicalities.
The evidence of this system's stunning successes are to be seen all around us.0 -
omg, thanks all - youre so right - a tory mp has moved up the road to avoid new rules! More in Mirror tomorrow.... says why should he subsidise his job for 420 a month !0
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Fewer politicians of all kinds would be a blessing. We should be innately suspicious of anyone (particularly anyone under 40) who gets up on his hind legs and preaches to us that he or she knows the answers to all our problems.
I think the challenge is to find a way of incentivising the right sort of people to go into politics for the right reasons. I do not know how to do this, but I for one am getting fed up with career politicians and those who treat it as a second job. Ideally you want people who spend 10 years doing something else (an ordinary job) before standing and some requirement that they have lived or worked in the constituency for a minimum period.Few people are capable of expressing with equanimity opinions which differ from the prejudices of their social environment. Most people are incapable of forming such opinions.0 -
I'm afraid that's just about right. Now and again you get someone with a bit of relevant knowledge or experience but, by and large, a minister is minister of X until he is appointed minister of Y, at the whim of the PM.
The theory is that the minister sets broad policy along the lines outlined by his party when it won the election and he is guided by civil servants as to the practicalities.
The evidence of this system's stunning successes are to be seen all around us.
So really the minister is almost like, with respect, an errand boy, no wonder many of them do not wish to be involved in debates because they could well be lost in giving reasonable answers.0 -
How on earth can you put a Minister in charge of Education when the truth is he has no more clues than I have in running schools and Universities and teachers lives, then you get Ministers of Defence etc whereby for any Senior position I would think that you should have earned this position and have a great knowledge of how it works.
Governments change. Civil servants don't.
Taking your point. How can politicians comment on how banks are run. As none have any background or understanding of how banks work.0 -
Thrugelmir wrote: »Governments change. Civil servants don't.
Taking your point. How can politicians comment on how banks are run. As none have any background or understanding of how banks work.
Nor do civil servants. That's why the bankers run rings around them and largely get all their own way.No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.
The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
Margaret Thatcher0 -
I think the challenge is to find a way of incentivising the right sort of people to go into politics for the right reasons. I do not know how to do this, but I for one am getting fed up with career politicians and those who treat it as a second job. Ideally you want people who spend 10 years doing something else (an ordinary job) before standing and some requirement that they have lived or worked in the constituency for a minimum period.
Possibly because a good many couldn't get decent jobs, hold them for 10 years and show they had been successful at any of them?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
None us plebs at work will be voting Tory, especially after this week. They have single handily lost 30,000 police votes from London alone. Bit of an own goal as Tories can usally count on us plebs and families
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