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Mobilising

Gareth56
Gareth56 Posts: 915 Forumite
edited 21 December 2012 at 8:52PM in Disability money matters
If someones mobility is resticted to 50m do they satisfy the mobilising descriptor?:-

"Cannot mobilise more than 50 metres on level ground without stopping in order to avoid significant discomfort or exhaustion."

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  • yes they do i passed this descriptor for my recent esa benefit medical as i was out of breath when i got there due to health issues. i was placed into support group.
  • Gareth56
    Gareth56 Posts: 915 Forumite
    edited 21 December 2012 at 9:39PM
    Many thanks for the reply.

    The phrase used by the consultant was "He has (his condition) and reduced mobility of up to 50m", so I assume that will carry some weight with the DWP concerning the descriptor above?
  • JS477
    JS477 Posts: 1,968 Forumite
    Gareth56 wrote: »
    Many thanks for the reply.

    The phrase used by the consultant was "He has (his condition) and reduced mobility of up to 50m", so I assume that will carry some weight with the DWP concerning the descriptor above?

    You would hope if not expect that the DWP decision maker would respect the clinical expertise of your consultant when they report that due to your condition your mobility has been reduced to 50m.

    I also agree with SPELLKASTER that if you have that level of reduced mobility (up to 50m) then you satisfy the above descriptor.
  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 13,009 Forumite
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    it would all depend on the condition.

    if the claimant could use a manual wheelchair, then not being able to walk would mean nothing.

  • And let us not forget that the HCP may imagine whether you would be able to use one. If you have little upper arm strength, then hopefully you will get the 15 points for the mobilisation descriptor!
    I too was popped into support group due to this and other problems and my medical was stopped at 30 minutes as she (DR doing HCP WCA) could see just how exhausted I was. But then I do have a rare illness that is incurable and causes severe muscle weakness.
  • JS477
    JS477 Posts: 1,968 Forumite
    And let us not forget that the HCP may imagine whether you would be able to use one. If you have little upper arm strength, then hopefully you will get the 15 points for the mobilisation descriptor!

    A typical example of not being able to use a manual wheelchair is if the claimant has arthritis of the hands whereby they couldn't effectively grip the wheels and have the strength to propel themselves. Also any cardiovascular problems may prevent the claimant from exerting too much effort.

    IMHO this imaginary wheelchair scenario is an insidious little inclusion by these tories so as to exclude those people who cannot or find it very difficult to walk but can use a manual wheelchair to get into the SG.
  • Bryando
    Bryando Posts: 1,464 Forumite
    I can't walk up to 50 meters without having pain. Yet if I take the Tramadol then the pain is not as bad. How would ESA view this?
  • rogerblack
    rogerblack Posts: 9,446 Forumite
    Bryando wrote: »
    I can't walk up to 50 meters without having pain. Yet if I take the Tramadol then the pain is not as bad. How would ESA view this?

    You are supposed to be assessed as if taking your normal medications, or treatments.
    If, after this, you can walk 50 meters without 'significant discomfort' - and do this several times a day - then you would not meet this descriptor.
    If you have a condition that is well controlled by drugs, you are generally not entitled to ESA for the symptoms that would occur if you diddn't take the drugs.
    (unless it's unreasonable for some reason for you to do so)
  • schrodie
    schrodie Posts: 8,410 Forumite
    With respect to any medication you may be taking make sure to mention any side effects (if any) you may suffer form as a result of taking them e.g. dizziness, nausea etc?
  • Sup
    Sup Posts: 15 Forumite
    Hi

    The Mobilising descriptor is a tricky one...

    I scored 0 points for Mobilising even though it's my biggest problem and Atos HCP wrote i should be able to use a wheelchair to repeatedly mobilise 200+ metres.

    I appealed...

    If your accident was a good few years ago then you can inform them you're not physically fit enough to repeatedly propel a manual wheelchair and say a fully fit person can't just jump in a wheelchair to repeatedly mobilise 200+ metres. If you're asthmatic then that will go in your favour. I also scored 6 points for sitting/standing so i included that info in my appeal why using a wheelchair would be un-reasonable.

    After a recon i got Support Group for 2 years.


    Good luck.
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