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RM International 'signed for' item returned to sender... can I get a refund?

Quick RM related question...

I had a feeling that a particular overseas buyer was less than above board and going to pull a INR claim on a £40 item (small item in a gift box), so I sent an item International signed for/airsure trackable.

Sure enough, they did pull an INR. However, RM had all the details of the tracking, which shows the buyer refused to sign for the item on 2 occasions, so the item cam back to myself.

Does anyone know, when RM cannot deliver an item, can the sender reclaim any part of the postage charge form RM? [It was a lightish package, but cost about £10 to send].
"The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing.
...If you can fake that, you've got it made."
Groucho Marx

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  • deanos
    deanos Posts: 11,241 Forumite
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    you cant claim postage, they tried to deliver so did as you asked
  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
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    Quick RM related question...

    I had a feeling that a particular overseas buyer was less than above board and going to pull a INR claim on a £40 item (small item in a gift box), so I sent an item International signed for/airsure trackable.

    Sure enough, they did pull an INR. However, RM had all the details of the tracking, which shows the buyer refused to sign for the item on 2 occasions, so the item cam back to myself.

    Does anyone know, when RM cannot deliver an item, can the sender reclaim any part of the postage charge form RM? [It was a lightish package, but cost about £10 to send].

    what would be the basis of the refund?
    RM sent it,then brought it back to you
  • porto_bello
    porto_bello Posts: 1,828 Forumite
    custardy wrote: »
    what would be the basis of the refund?
    RM sent it,then brought it back to you

    On the basis that the buyer claims it never arrived.

    And on the basis that RM were paid £10 to complete a service that demonstratively was never completed.
    "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing.
    ...If you can fake that, you've got it made."
    Groucho Marx
  • deanos
    deanos Posts: 11,241 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Uniform Washer
    RM had all the details of the tracking, which shows the buyer refused to sign for the item on 2 occasions

    Delivery was attempted, you re not entitled to anything
  • custardy
    custardy Posts: 38,365 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    On the basis that the buyer claims it never arrived.

    And on the basis that RM were paid £10 to complete a service that demonstratively was never completed.
    which shows the buyer refused to sign for the item on 2 occasions,

    really? Thats not what the delivering country have stated
  • macfly
    macfly Posts: 2,728 Forumite
    Both Royal Mail and the destination operator are going that extra mile by returning it to you at their cost. Seems a fairly good service to me.
    Maybe you got the house number wrong?
  • The price you pay Royal Mail includes the cost of return (if you provide a return address) should delivery not happen for any reason. Do you expect the postie to kick down the door and nail the package to the head of anyone they find there?
  • porto_bello
    porto_bello Posts: 1,828 Forumite
    junkmayle wrote: »
    Do you expect the postie to kick down the door and nail the package to the head of anyone they find there?
    If that was ever a realistic proposition, I suspect there would be something of a stampede to the Post Office. There are certainly one or two US based buyers I've encountered over the years, whose long-term antics and cumulative damage, to numerous eBay accounts really deserves some 'hands on' feedback... easily worth a £10 investment and a six-inch nail. :think:
    junkmayle wrote: »
    The price you pay Royal Mail includes the cost of return (if you provide a return address) should delivery not happen for any reason.
    From the perspective of profitability, it would seem to be more efficient for RM to simply hold items locally for few days, then declare them 'undeliverable', return them to the sender... and keep the money.

    Hopefully nobody in a post-privatised RM will work that out...
    "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing.
    ...If you can fake that, you've got it made."
    Groucho Marx
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