BT FTTC upgrade .... ?

50Twuncle

I see that my area is due to be upgraded to FTTC (Fibre to the Cabinet) by the end of this month
This is (obviously) being carried out by BT - But will this mean faster (up to 40Mb) connections for those of us who are not BT - ie Talk Talk - as well ?

At the moment - I have to make do with max 3Mb !!!

espresso

Knowing TalkTalk it will be even slower once you have committed to a new minimum term contract!

societys_child

BT, Plusnet, TT, Sky, Orange and a number of others.

At the moment - I have to make do with max 3Mb !!!

Ha . . . that's about twice what I've had to make do with.:(

Just ordered FTTC from EE, connecting next Wednasday :j

macman

21Twinkle wrote: »

I see that my area is due to be upgraded to FTTC (Fibre to the Cabinet) by the end of this month
This is (obviously) being carried out by BT - But will this mean faster (up to 40Mb) connections for those of us who are not BT - ie Talk Talk - as well ?

At the moment - I have to make do with max 3Mb !!!

No, because you'll still be on the old copper line. FTTC is an addition to the local loop, not a replacement. If you want fibre, you have to pay for it (but of course you don't have to pay BT).

airborne_61

Am I right in saying that it will be upto 40MB to the cabinet then when it hits the copper to your home it will reduce, but will be faster than it was before?

macman

It will still be 'up to' 40MB whatever speed it is when it reaches your home!
Yes, it will be faster, the main determining factor being the distance from street cab to the property.

Toxteth_OGrady

TalkTalk (as with most other fibre ISPs) now offer FTTC at up to 76 Mbps;

https://sales.talktalk.co.uk/product/fibre

As already mentioned you'll only get the full 76 if you are approx less than 150m from the street cabinet.

What speed can I expect from fibre broadband? (FTTC)

The speed of your connection will vary depending on the distance to the fibre cabinet that serves your house. If you know roughly how far the cabinet is, you should be able to calculate the speed you should receive based on the figures in the table below: Distance to cabinet (metres) / Estimated connection speed / Cumulative%'age of premises at this distance

100m 100 Mbps 5%
200m 65 Mbps 20%
300m 45 Mbps 30%
400m 42 Mbps 45%
500m 38 Mbps 60%
600m 35 Mbps 70%
700m 32 Mbps 75%
800m 28 Mbps 80%
900m 25 Mbps 85%
1000m 24 Mbps 90%
1250m 17 Mbps 95%
1500m 15 Mbps 98%

VDSL2 Profile 17a, cabinet to premises speed estimate

Source of quote: http://www.thinkbroadband.com/guide/fibre-broadband.html

alinwales

21Twinkle wrote: »

I see that my area is due to be upgraded to FTTC (Fibre to the Cabinet) by the end of this month
This is (obviously) being carried out by BT - But will this mean faster (up to 40Mb) connections for those of us who are not BT - ie Talk Talk - as well ?

At the moment - I have to make do with max 3Mb !!!

Yes, if you pay for it!
£10 a month, £30 connection, 18mth contract, read small print.etc etc.

alanwsg

Note that if the BT FTTC site [ http://www.dslchecker.bt.com/adsl/ADSLChecker.TelephoneNumberOutput ] says you're due to be upgraded on the end of a quarter year (31st Mar, 30th Jun, 30th Sep, 31st Dec), it's just a "Place holder" and probably won't happen.

When it moves to some other date, it's probably for real!

GunJack

Whichever ISP you're with, if you go with FTTC then it's back to using BT's kit unfortunately, along with DLM (yes, it even operates on their fibre connections :mad: ).

AND, as part of the Standardisation of all FTTC installs, you'll have to use a Huawei HG612 (or was it 621, never remember OTTOMH) VDSL modem and a separate router, the router will be the choice of your ISP. So, you'll need a new master socket installed by Openreach as part of the install to take the VDSL signal and connection, oh, and allow for an extra power socket to plug the router into as well as the modem.....

However, TT's £10 a month on top of your normal package isn't too bad if you MUST have the faster speeds...

Basically, under FTTC, the DSLAM is now in the shiny new street cab, next to the existing PCP, not in the exchange. So, all ISPs that offer FTTC are using the BT system, not their own as per LLU....

50Twuncle

alinwales wrote: »

Yes, if you pay for it!
£10 a month, £30 connection, 18mth contract, read small print.etc etc.

Sorry - Talk Talk business claim to offer the fastest available connection available to each customer - which means that if the infrastucture allows it - a new contract will be uneccesary !!
At the moment - I can cancel with a months notice - so why would this change ?