PARKING CHARGE NOTICE ParkingEye

roodelbats

Hi,

I'm new on here & looking for some advice. My daughter received today a PARKING CHARGE NOTICE from ParkingEye car park management it is for Parc Llandudno car park, she parked her car to do some shopping but lost her car keys so had to return home on the bus and return to collect her car with the spare set of keys, her car was parked there for 3 hours and 6 mins, she did leave a note under her window wipers explaining - this was not there when she got back!! We have had a charge amount due for £85.00 but if paid within 14 days will discount to £50.00. I have been told not to let my daughter pay this, that it is a scam, but it all looks so genuine. Could you please advise me what to do and if she doesn't pay what will happen?

Thanks in advance for your replies :A

bargepole

roodelbats wrote: »

... I have been told not to let my daughter pay this, that it is a scam, but it all looks so genuine. Could you please advise me what to do and if she doesn't pay what will happen? ..

Yes, it is a genuine scam.

They will write to you, in a series of increasingly threatening letters.

Then they will send a final demand. Then a final, final demand. Then a final, final, this time we really mean it demand.

Then ... they will go away and try to scare some other mug into paying them.

Freebyman

Simple, ignore any post from them. There are hundreds of posts regarding this on the forums. Its that simple.

prosnap

The whole private parking business relies on misrepresentation of authority. They are not the council, police or government, so they can't legally issue fines or penalties. All they have sent you is a civil invoice, which you have no legal obligation to pay or acknowledge.

Contacting them is generally a waste of time, their appeals process is worthless as it is not run by an impartial third party but rather by themselves so it's obviously within their interests to reject it.

Over 99.9% of the time they will not take you to court, because the more times they take people to court, and lose, the more chance that other members of the public get to hear that the invoices can be ignored. This would then lead to parking companies having no income because there would be no more gullible people left!

Taking people to court actually hurts their business ... Which is why they hardly ever try it.



Out of over 1.1 million private parking invoices issued last year only 49 were heard before a court and the parking companies lost half of those.

Coupon-mad

roodelbats wrote: »

Hi,

I'm new on here & looking for some advice. My daughter received today a PARKING CHARGE NOTICE from ParkingEye car park management it is for Parc Llandudno car park, she parked her car to do some shopping but lost her car keys so had to return home on the bus and return to collect her car with the spare set of keys, her car was parked there for 3 hours and 6 mins, she did leave a note under her window wipers explaining - this was not there when she got back!! We have had a charge amount due for £85.00 but if paid within 14 days will discount to £50.00. I have been told not to let my daughter pay this, that it is a scam, but it all looks so genuine. Could you please advise me what to do and if she doesn't pay what will happen?

Thanks in advance for your replies :A

My 18 year old niece has already ignored six Parking Eye fake PCNs and laughs at all the letters that arrive. If she can do it so can your DD! And by the way, my niece wasn't parking inconsiderately; she got all her fake PCNs for 'overstaying' as well. She has a long-term condition which means she is protected under the Equality Act 2010 and considered to have a disability. She has no Blue Badge as they are usually only issued for mobility issues - but she and I know that the BB scheme doesn't apply on private land and that she can overstay if she needs more time when shopping or out and about.

I have ignored 2 fake PCNs myself and it's not a parking fine at all. No it is not a genuine penalty, no company can issue a penalty which is why you will see when scrutinising the piece of rubbish impersonating a parking ticket, that there is no word 'penalty' or 'fine' on there.

It's an unsolicited invoice. Ignore it and ignore the letters.

When dealing with "tickets" from private parking companies (PPCs) our advice is to ignore them as long as the registered keeper is you or a relative (company/hire/lease cars need a different approach). The letters are easy to ignore when they are received by someone who knows it's all hogwash and not a real parking ticket at all. The whole scam of fake PCNs relies firstly on people's ignorance of the fact that a random private company can't fine anyone, and secondly on their natural fear of parking tickets and the escalating costs/bailiff scenario (which doesn't apply, there is NO DEBT).

Quite simply, PPCs copy the look of a real parking ticket and - hey presto! - the cash rolls in from victims who know no better.

Tick off the threatening letters here.

Watchdog clip with expert Solicitor's opinion here.

Barrister's opinion here.

Just to also say that if this was in England/Wales there is an option to appeal now, and I expect that PE have included their extra piece of trash making it sound as if the Protection of Freedoms Act somehow supports their invoice (not true).

I bet she got this load of old codswallop:

http://s1136.beta.photobucket.com/user/taffy056/library/ParkingEye/#/user/taffy056/library/ParkingEye?&_suid=135535819364706754176625988668

If she does decide to appeal then she must make it clear she is going to also appeal further to the indepent appeals service POPLA:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4263959

In fact most people we have seen who have tried an appeal and made it clear they KNOW about POPLA and want the verification code from the PPC, have got the fake PCN cancelled. Because PPCs do not seem keen to want to fund an appeals system at £27 +VAT a pop for each case, knowing that the decision is only binding on the PPC not the motorist!



HTH, happy reading of the Parking forum. How about searching this sub-forum for the words 'Parking Eye'? You'll be reading the results into 2013!

roodelbats

Thanks everyone, will be giving the advice to my daughter to ignore this time.

AltheHibby

And to ignore every other time as well!

27col

Of course it looks genuine and legal. That is the entire principle of the scam. If it was written in lipstick on a bit of bog roll, no-one would take any notice whatever. As a lot of people have very rarely seen any sort of legal document they have nothing in their experience to compare it with.
I warned a friend recently about this PPC scam. Then much to my annoyance she paid a Parkingspy invoice relating to our local Aldi. When I asked why, she said that it looked "official". Some people are very difficult to help.