Leave left over - not allowed to carry over but cant take it

[Deleted User]

Nick_C wrote: »

Correct. .

Liar or mug - can't decide which....

Wicked_witch

There is a vast difference between sick leave (unpleasant, stressful, tiring) and holiday leave (relaxing, fun, healthy), quite apart from the legal and dubious moral standpoints. I doubt that anyone would really go back to work after a bout of flu and demand that a week be knocked off their holiday out of fairness. The fact that the OP's partner was off for longer than that just indicates that her illness was substantially more serious than flu and her employers are not doing themselves any favours by not giving her the holiday time which would allow her to recuperate fully.

TJT87

Nick_C wrote: »

It has everything to do with the attitude prevalent amongst many workers in the public services. If I was off sick for 3 months I wouldn't expect to take a holiday on top of that.

Yes, there is an entitlement, but ask not what my country can do for me, but what I can do for my country.

Of course, not all public sector employees have this attitude, and I know many people who take annual leave if they are feeling under the weather instead of "taking a sickie".

So if after being sick, and quite possibly not earning,you needed sometime to recuperate you would be quite happy to take unpaid time off to do that.

fed_up_and_stressed

Well regardless of the fact that someone seems to have judge and jury hat here about the moral rights and wrongs the fact is the law is the law and people who are on the sick acrue holiday. End of.

[Deleted User]

UPDATE

Still not being allowed to take leave. To make matters worse, wife is off sick at the moment and will be for a while. Chances are there won't be much time at all left to take leave by april anyway now.

Remind me - what are the rules for NHS? Surely they've got to allow carry-over? What if someone is off sick for 11 1/2 months - surely they can't be expect to use their leave in the remaining two weeks?

To complicate matters, wife is also pregnant (due july) (which is also the cause of current health problems). Planning to take year off maternity.

Whats the rules for leave whilst on maternity? Is it still accrued? I guess the way its going shes going to be carrying over few days and then getting a whole new year to use by July.

[Deleted User]

UPDATE

Well, its April now and she didnt go back to work before the end of the leave year (end March).

Shes spoken to HR today and explained that she tried to use leave when she was in work but was never allowed due to staffing levels. Also, shes now been ill since January.

We did put this in writing a few weeks ago but they've just ignored the letter.

HR have told her - hard luck you're not allowed to carry over the leave. Surely this is not right?

Going to speak to the union soon but surely this is contrary to

http://www.nhsemployers.org/EMPLOYMENTPOLICYANDPRACTICE/UKEMPLOYMENTPRACTICE/Pages/AccrualofStatutoryAnnualLeaveonLongtermSickLeave.aspx

???

She also mentioned she'd be on maternity leave from June for 12 months and apparently leave does accrue during this time - its different !!!!

CruisingSaver

What does your wife's employer's annual leave policy say? Get hold of a copy of that first and take it from there.

CS

paddedjohn

The law trumps the employers annual leave policy. Any leave that your wife had left should be carried over.

st999

Why couldn't she take her leave?

Because they couldn't manage without her if she was on leave?

So what are they doing while she is off sick?

Typical jobs-worth NHS management.

getmore4less

paddedjohn wrote: »

The law trumps the employers annual leave policy. Any leave that your wife had left should be carried over.

Thats for statutory only, for contractual it is policy.

Most NHS get much more than statutory.