2011 Census - Rise in foreign-born residents

abankerbutnotafatcat

I just posted this re Intra-EU migration on another thread but it seems appropriate here too.

When I lived in Denmark as a EU citizen I did not automatically have a permanent right of abode, only 3 months. As the immigration officer stiffly told me 'you can't just live in Denmark, you have to have a reason'. Those reasons were work, study or Danish partner. Without those, EU citizens need to prove they have a set amount of cash in the bank - c£6k from memory. [incidentally, citizens of non-EU Norway do not have these restrictions]

I wrote to my UK MP querying this, was Denmark in breach of the EU's free movement of people? No, came the reply, existing EU legislation permits member countries to place these restrictions on citizens of other EU states but the UK chooses not to exercise this right.

bo_drinker

We are struggling to cope, hospitals, schools, housing etc etc etc. When will someone in the know wake up close the fkn gates and sort the mess out ????????

Sampong

abankerbutnotafatcat wrote: »

I just posted this re Intra-EU migration on another thread but it seems appropriate here too.

When I lived in Denmark as a EU citizen I did not automatically have a permanent right of abode, only 3 months. As the immigration officer stiffly told me 'you can't just live in Denmark, you have to have a reason'. Those reasons were work, study or Danish partner. Without those, EU citizens need to prove they have a set amount of cash in the bank - c£6k from memory. [incidentally, citizens of non-EU Norway do not have these restrictions]

I wrote to my UK MP querying this, was Denmark in breach of the EU's free movement of people? No, came the reply, existing EU legislation permits member countries to place these restrictions on citizens of other EU states but the UK chooses not to exercise this right.

Do you have a link to that legislation by any chance?

vivatifosi

Sampong wrote: »

Do you have a link to that legislation by any chance?

I know it wasn't me you asked, but I went looking earlier and found this:
http://www.nyidanmark.dk/en-us/coming_to_dk/eu_and_nordic_citizens/eu-eea_citizens/
Looks like it is a nordic thing.

zagubov

Someone I know in HE was abroad at a conference and was bought drinks by some Irish people. They wanted to thank him for the British crackdown on foreign students as they're applying to Irish univeristies now! :rotfl:

John_Pierpoint

In the days when South Africa was a pariah state, the standard method of slipping into the UK was to go to Eire as a tourist and cross the border to Ulster - now that we have to produce passports on public transport, just in case we might be a bomber, is this "back door" entry more difficult?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pariah_state

John_Pierpoint

vivatifosi wrote: »

I know it wasn't me you asked, but I went looking earlier and found this:
http://www.nyidanmark.dk/en-us/coming_to_dk/eu_and_nordic_citizens/
Looks like it is a Nordic thing.

Anyone else getting a "strange" response to that link?

Am I being paranoid ?
Have I an "infection" on my PC?

What is this thing:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetMiner

zagubov

John_Pierpoint wrote: »

In the days when South Africa was a pariah state, the standard method of slipping into the UK was to go to Eire as a tourist and cross the border to Ulster - now that we have to produce passports on public transport, just in case we might be a bomber, is this "back door" entry more difficult?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pariah_state

Don't do this journey myself but not sure the passport applies to every ferry airline or port.

Actually was there a time when people from the Channel Islands didn't need a passport for France or the UK? In modern times I mean?

abankerbutnotafatcat

Sampong wrote: »

Do you have a link to that legislation by any chance?

The EU legislation, no but as someone else posted, this information is the standard Danish entry requirements so easily available and the site they posted is one of the main ones. Here's the bit about Norway and Iceland on the preceding page to the link above:

"Citizens of Finland, Iceland, Norway and Sweden are free to enter, reside, study and work in Denmark. They do not need a visa, residence or work permit".

That really irks me as I recall from Uni history that the UK had to give up its historic, favourable links with commonwealth countries as a condition of entry into the then EEC.

BTW in the UK we (our leaders on our behalf) seem happy to take on the role of pantomime baddy (like the seasonal reference?) in the EU but watching closely behind the curtains and happy to let the UK take the heat for saying what they think too, the Swedes and Danes are just as EU-sceptic as us and that's despite it not having had as much impact on them as it has for us per my earlier post.

To give an example of how little impact the EU has had in DK, I was asked many times by people who knew I was British, 'can you work in Denmark?' I woud refer them to the EU which DK joined (on the same day as the UK) often before they were born!

prowla

On the one hand, it is good that people want to come here and the different cultures enrich us and help promote London as one of the World's great cities.

On the other hand we are seeing the erosion (or evolution?) of our national identity (if it ever truly existed beyond an elite few), we have an inadequate infrastructure, and it is ludicrous to pay British people not to work whilst giving whilst encouraging immigration.

My opinion is that the pros outweigh the cons.