can you get freeview on tv without scarts?

hotpot1000

My uncle has a 20yrs old Mitsubishi tv, in perfect condition, is it possible to get freeview plugged into it when the tv has no scarts.
Ta

tweeter

I have in the past used a Freeview box on a telly which had no scarts and got a reasonable picture.HTH.

Domski

yes, they usually have RF OUT which
is what you require.

Little_John

Ok a decent reply for you.

Pretty much all freeview boxes will have a scart output whihc is a no no for the 20 year old TV.

What he/you will beed to buy is and RF moulator, it takes the scart signal from the FV box and converts it to a Radio Frequency (RF) whihc is what the TV picks up through the aerial connector. you then tune a TV chanel in to the signal from the RF box and he will receive what is connected to the rf box at the time. You remember early video recorders when we all used to tune in to channel 0.

There are loads available on eBay, the only problem is that there is usually some degradation of the picture quality but what isthe other option buying a new TV.

mcfisco

Does the Mitzi TV have any AV inputs at all?
It's been quite a while since I recall seeing one but I'm sure they were fitted with phono inputs.
If it has you will be able to use a Scart to phono lead

Also, if he has a VCR, it should be possible to feed the Freeview into it & then watch it via the VCR channel on the TV - you'll just need to put the VCR on EXT or Line or AV etc. instead of the usual Ch1 - 5

hotpot1000

Thanks all of you, sounds promising, I know that he could just buy a new tv but there's nowt wrong with the one he has.
mcfisco there are 2 sockets on the back of the tv, similar to the aerial socket type in size, plus one with a pawprint type shape for acommodating pins from the lead to be plugged in, hope you can see what I mean, as well as he aerial socket.
Blinding idea to plug freeview into a video, as I think he has a video.
I will be saving your ideas till I visit the tv in 2 wks time, many thanks

MarkyMarkD

Domski wrote: »

yes, they usually have RF OUT which
is what you require.

This is wrong, but it's a common misunderstanding.

Most Freeview boxes have a socket labelled RF IN and another labelled RF OUT. But all that these sockets do is to pass the RF signal from the external aerial through to your TV. That's no use at all for the purpose we are talking about, and will become a waste of time when the analogue signal is turned off.

A very few Freeview boxes contain an RF modulator, which adds the freeview TV image to a spare RF channel which it then outputs using the RF OUT socket. This is very rare and none of the cheap Freeview boxes do it.

The other suggestions re using the RF modulator in your video recorder are sensible, but once again not all video recorders have an RF modulator - my Ferguson one does not as they de-specced it to save a few pence on the build cost.

BexTech

I have a Ferguson FDT2000, this comes with modulated RF out (though I have it switched off as I use scart). This is an old model but has had OTA software upgrade for 8 day EPG. Is re-badged from the Thomson and also as Grundig GDT2000.

Someone is selling one on eBay.

I still use mine, but now on the 2nd TV, as I have Goodmans GBD5e which has DAB too, though no modulated RF out.

The digital text is quicker (instant more or less) on the Ferguson than the newer Goodmans I have.

Moneymaker

Some Freview boxes have an RF modulator but there's a cost penalty:
http://www.!!!!!!.uk/accs/page11.htm

mcfisco

hotpot1000 wrote: »

mcfisco there are 2 sockets on the back of the tv, similar to the aerial socket type in size, plus one with a pawprint type shape for acommodating pins from the lead to be plugged in, hope you can see what I mean, as well as he aerial socket.

The 'pawprint' socket is likely to be a DIN socket & could well have all the AV connections but they have never been standard so not easy to figure out.
the other 2 could weel be phono sockets - is one of them coloured yellow? if so that'll be video in & the other one will be mono audio in.
If they are phonos, you'll need one of these
http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?ModuleNo=28102&doy=23m4
+ one of these to combine the stereo audio into one
http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?TabID=1&ModuleNo=29192&doy=23m4

You may well get what you need cheaper but that's the sort of thing you want.
Try to confirm the the 2 sockets you describe are indeed the AV inputs before you buy the extra leads etc. the TV will also have some way of switching to this input too - again, it could be marked on the handset in various ways, the common ones are a square with an arrow going into it, or a button marked AV or TV/VCR etc. it could even be a button on the TV itself.

alanrowell

If you can't find any other solution then look for a Freeview box that has a RF modulator.

If it says RF loop through then that WON'T have a modulator

Examples of ones that do / don't

http://www.radioandtelly.co.uk/freeviewboxes.html

As for the TV - is there any chance that the instruction manual is still around. That will tell you what the sockets are