4 year old, low mileage car and the Sale of Goods Act.

C_Mababejive

Shows how carp many modern cars are..especially French ones. A well structured SOGA claim in the small claims courts will be the ultimate you can do and it wont cost you much so that will be your eventual destination.

Relentless01

A good will gesture from the manufacture is the only route. Unfortunately this is usually a battle and will take determination and a lot of time. If the vehicle has not got full manufactures history it is also unlikely.

Good luck, I wish you all the best.

fivetide

I'd be interested in what was done at the service and whether this could have played a part - perhaps they didn't screw it all back together properly...

hethmar

Have you looked on a forum for this car to see if its a common fault?

SLITHER99

forgotmyname wrote: »

...left ticking over for ages to defrost.

When we get some snow i will pop a video up on yourtube. The old dears with the motability cars. Starting them up and leaving them for over 20 minutes to defrost...

Not sure if we're talking the same thing, but usually in Winter, I'll leave my car running for ten minutes to ensure the windscreen has de-fogged. Though I'll scrape off the ice and that sort of thing, I always thought it better to leave the engine/inside warm up a little before taking off on the roads. Is that the wrong thing to do?

forgotmyname

Sitting idle to warm up is not a good way to warm an engine.

Startup and driveaway asap after starting. But without labouring or over revving.

It will warm up a lot faster. And cause less wear on the engine.

Its not so bad on modern cars, But older cars used to get something called bore wash. The extra rich mixture needed to start the car and help warm it up washes the oil off the bores.
So you get increased wear.

Sitting idle its running rich for much much longer compared to driving off much sooner.

This is why some cars last 200,000 miles and others look like they have done 200,000 miles but really only done 60,000.

Take 2 cars. one does 100,000 one mile journey's and take an identical car and drive it 100,000 miles non stop. The wear on the one driven constantly will be much less.

If the one that always does cold starts actually makes it to the end of the test.

jaybeetoo

SLITHER99 wrote: »

I'll leave my car running for ten minutes to ensure the windscreen has de-fogged. ..... Is that the wrong thing to do?

Yes!

Start the engine and drive off straight away is best (assuming you cleared the windscreen before starting the engine).

hethmar

Does this apply for diesels please?

Sgt_Pepper_2

SLITHER99 wrote: »

Not sure if we're talking the same thing, but usually in Winter, I'll leave my car running for ten minutes to ensure the windscreen has de-fogged. Though I'll scrape off the ice and that sort of thing, I always thought it better to leave the engine/inside warm up a little before taking off on the roads. Is that the wrong thing to do?

What you sit there in the car for 10 minutes?

forgotmyname

The bore wash is not the same on a diesel. But modern diesel does not lubricate as well as older stuff.

But ticking over it must take an age to warm up. Clear the windows 1st obviously. I see so many stupid people that clear a 2" circle on the windscreem and drive off.
Zero visibility from the side windows and not much better through the windscreen.

Try it. Leave it ticking over and test the temperature after 5 minutes.
Then try it again driving off straight away.

It warms up much faster being driven. Dont thrash it or accelerate hard let it warm properly 1st.