Lining paper ok?

SusieT

Hope someone can help, we have recently purchased an old farmhouse and as winter is coming have decided to insulate and decorate 2 of the rooms and renovate the others next summer. We have taken about 6 layers of paper off the first room which was interesting to say the least and have got back to the wall, but instead of plaster it looks like a flat concrete on the wall Not too many cracks in it and they are only small ones, so is it possible to put some Efurt lining paper up on this without having it skimmed first please, and if so should I do anything with the walls first since its old but already had paper on it?

new_owner

Efurt lining paper.

if you want to insulate you can do much better. I would not really class it as insulation. It would be better to use lining paper than that stuff.

If you want to insulate the internal walls you will want to have a stud frame with a insulation. Plaster board then skim.

SusieT

Should have made myself clearer, sorry

We are not looking to insulate the walls, its just that neither of us have seen what looks like concrete on the walls and don't know if any preparation would be needed, and if lining paper would be ok for them as what came off was several layers of normal thin wallpaper

budgetdiyer

Lining paper should be fine (but obviously i've not seen the concrete wall you mention), but you'll be wanting a very strong paste mix.

I think i'd be tempted to try a small patch of the paper first just to check it sticks sufficiently.

You should try and prep / smooth the walls as much as possible, even thick lining paper will not cover all imperfections.

SusieT

Thanks, why did I not think of that :rotfl: its the simplest things that bypass me
Will see if B&Q do a strong paste as I suspect the all purpose thats in the shed will be a bit weak!

invisiblecabbage

Yes, budgetdiyer has the right idea .... A very thick lining paper, it can be bought in different thicknesses.

budgetdiyer

SusieT wrote: »

Thanks, why did I not think of that :rotfl: its the simplest things that bypass me
Will see if B&Q do a strong paste as I suspect the all purpose thats in the shed will be a bit weak!

Its the amount of water that you mix it with that governs the strength really. Ie less water, thicker mix

I've just lined some walls / boxing in my kitchen, i used 1700 grade paper, it elminated most minor marks but there are still some areas that show up in the right light / angle etc, but i guess in a farmhouse lumpy / bumpy walls add to the character anyway!

Erfurt 2000 is their thickest lining paper irrc. There are some paste the wall type lining papers that apparently offer a smoother more plaster like finish but they are more expensive.

You should be able to get a reasonable finish with a erfurt lining paper though, remember to let the paste soak into the paper (thicker the paper let it soak for longer), mix your paste well (no lumps!), brush any bubbles out (you will see some bubbles but they should dissappear when dry - i brush alot to ensure any air bubbles are gone!) AND use a seam roller on the seams.

Its entirely possible to line a wall which when painted will leave no visible paper joins.

SusieT

Thanks for the detailed reply budgetdiyer, am starting today so hopefully it will stay there, as you say any little lumps and bumps will be character ones and as its us living here it does not really matter what others think :rotfl: Lets hope we can get somewhere near the sort of finish that does not show the joins :beer: