UKCPS Car Parking Charge

Taffylink

Hi,

Please can someone help / shed some light with my situation and what I should do next?

I recently parked using a company van at my local Gym car park monitored by UKCPS at approximately 18:15 on the 15/11/2012 for about an hour. The car park is free if you get your ticket validated at the gym otherwise you have to pay per time. When I returned I had a ticket on my windscreen (as a lot of the people on here have mentioned). They mentioned that I had parked across 2 parkings bays, however even though I had parked across the line, the right hand area was obstructed by bollards meaning that you would have had trouble parking a motorbike in the area let alone another car.

To add insult to injury, the car park was 80% empty when I arrived and pretty much the same when I left, so It wasn't as though I was obstructing other customers. Had I been given the opportunity to move, I would have gladly done so to avoid all this.

This being my first ticket incident (and not knowing the cases on here), I emailed an appeal from my work email stating my case. I copied in my gym and the centre manager saying that I would take my business and my membership elsewhere if the ticket was pursued.
To date, I have had no response from my gym or the centre manager but I do have a denied generic email from UKCPS (nothing personal).

At present they have none of my personal details, although they could get access to my employers details from the DVLA. My employer knows about this but they are new to this also. So far they have yet to receive anything from UKCPS.

As this is about to approach the 14 days before the charge increases, I was just looking for some advice as to whether I should avoid any further contact with them and ignore as with other cases. Or if I should respond?

Any help would be massively appreciated with this.

Many thanks

tospig

The simplest answer is that you and your employer ignore anything that is eventually sent asking for payment. You don't owe anyone anything.

Have a read around this forum at the thousands and thousands of threads similar to yours, all giving the same information that these tickets are completely unenforceable and meaningless.

taffy056

If the vehicle is leased then they will go there as the registered keeper to get paid, they probably add on a fee and either pay it or pass it to your company. You can circumvent that by popping then an email to say you were the driver but don't admit liability. Once they are writing to you just ignore them

Coupon-mad

taffy056 wrote: »

If the vehicle is leased then they will go there as the registered keeper to get paid, they probably add on a fee and either pay it or pass it to your company. You can circumvent that by popping then an email to say you were the driver but don't admit liability. Once they are writing to you just ignore them

Definitely do this - make sure UKCPS have an address for the driver (you, Taffylink) so they have no cause to get the registered keeper's data at all.

And show your Fleet Manager this link, as long as a PPC has the driver's details then there is NO LIABILITY for the registered keeper (company or lease co. or owner):

http://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/2009/5/28/question-private-parking-fines-fleets-urged/30698/

and this link from the BVRLA (lease companies' Trade Body).

''The BVRLA will now be working with the British Parking Association to ensure that customers' details can be passed to private parking firms in a simple way, without the need for complex evidential requirements such as copies of rental and lease agreements.

Contact:
Amanda Brandon, legal and policy executive
Telephone: 01494 545701
Email: [EMAIL="amanda@bvrla.co.uk"]amanda@bvrla.co.uk[/EMAIL] ''

All Fleet Managers need do is name the driver each time they get a fake PCN and give an address for service. Good practice would be to tell the driver but also point out it's not even a real fine and they should Google it, look at forum discussions about the parking company and fake PCNs in general!

Tishtash_2

We have been issued with a PCN in a small retail park car park, I am a Blue Badge holder my Husband is the driver, he usually displays my blue badge but unfortunately on this occasion he forgot and we were parked in a disabled parking space, on return to our car 10 minutes later we found we had been issued with a PCN from UKCPS Ltd and ordered to pay £100 or £60 if paid within 14 days, we apreciate that we made a mistake but my Husband does have memory problems since having brain surgery, in future we have decided the responsibilty of displaying the blue badge will be left to me, can anyone advise us what to do, should we just pay the fine or do should we try to fight it?

Guys_Dad

Tishtash wrote: »

We have been issued with a PCN in a small retail park car park, I am a Blue Badge holder my Husband is the driver, he usually displays my blue badge but unfortunately on this occasion he forgot and we were parked in a disabled parking space, on return to our car 10 minutes later we found we had been issued with a PCN from UKCPS Ltd and ordered to pay £100 or £60 if paid within 14 days, we apreciate that we made a mistake but my Husband does have memory problems since having brain surgery, in future we have decided the responsibilty of displaying the blue badge will be left to me, can anyone advise us what to do, should we just pay the fine or do should we try to fight it?

The only difference between your ticket and the hundreds of others on here is the registration number of the vehicle.

If all the advice on every thread is to ignore the PPC, what is special about your car registration that would make you liable to pay if the other MSE members are not?

Sorry to be harsh, but please do read a few threads! :beer:

Tishtash_2

Not exactly the warm welcome I expected especially after reading the Newbie alert : / I have read some threads but am quite nervous at not paying the fine especially as my Husband gets anxious about such things and if money was not so tight I would just pay it to save any hassle but unfortunately it is and thanks to your sarcastic comments a bad day has been made even worse!

Guys_Dad

It may have been harsh, but was accurate.

If you have read the other threads as you say, then just why do you want people to repeat the same advice ? There is nothing special about your circumstances, you may be glad to hear.

If you ignore the PPC, then you will get a number of increasingly threatening letters from them or some tame solicitor. They may threaten legal action, advice on here suggests that they will not pursue it to court.

If your husband is nervous about what to do, then get him to spend an hour reading this forum. PPCs exist because of people's ignorance of their powers and victims' own fears.

If my comment made you feel bad, then you need to consider if you are robust enough to deal with the letters that you will receive from the PPC/solicitors.

But as I said, the only difference between your case and others is the vehicle registration number.

BASFORDLAD

Tishtash wrote: »

Not exactly the warm welcome I expected especially after reading the Newbie alert : / I have read some threads but am quite nervous at not paying the fine especially as my Husband gets anxious about such things and if money was not so tight I would just pay it to save any hassle but unfortunately it is and thanks to your sarcastic comments a bad day has been made even worse!

Why is it any hassle to just ignore junk mail that comes through the post?

You must waste a lot of money in your household.

Its not a fine. Where does it say the word fine?????

cajef

Tishtash wrote: »

thanks to your sarcastic comments a bad day has been made even worse!

Hardly sarcastic I think you are being a little touchy, you have not got a fine, you have a speculative invoice from a private parking company that you can just ignore.

Tishtash_2

I have read that they bombard you with letters threatening court action thats not really the same as junk mail!
Just to put my Husbands mind at rest I will contact Trading Standards tomorrow.