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Cash transferred into wrong account

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My son transferred a sum, by phone, from his Barclays account to my Santander account. It didn't arrive so he rang his bank who said the account number was wrong by one digit. They say they will write to the recipient as they can't just take the money out of that persons account. My question is if the recipient has no funds how can we find out who was at fault. If it was the bank then I think they should cover the loss. Presumably the conversation was recorded, can I request a transcript if there is a dispute?
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  • CLAPTON
    CLAPTON Posts: 41,865 Forumite
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    your son should urgently ask for a transcript of the call.
  • agrinnall
    agrinnall Posts: 23,344 Forumite
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    If the account number was wrong by one digit it is very likely that the number will fail modulus checking (this assumes that Santander bother to modulus check, which may be a bit rash, even though it's a pretty standard thing to do) in which case the payment will either be returned or it'll go into a suspense account. Barclays can't write to the recipient as even if the number is valid they have no way of knowing who it belongs to, only Santander will know that. What Barclays will do is put a trace on the payment asking Santander to determine what happened to it. If it's in a suspense account they will return it, if it's gone to a customer account they will write to the customer to advise them of the error and ask for it back.
  • annie42
    annie42 Posts: 213 Forumite
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    What is modulus search mean please and can we can we use any lack of a search to support our case?
  • Lokolo
    Lokolo Posts: 20,861 Forumite
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    http://www.postcodeanywhere.co.uk/demos/bankvalidator.aspx

    Use this, see if the account exists first.
  • pqrdef
    pqrdef Posts: 4,552 Forumite
    agrinnall wrote: »
    If the account number was wrong by one digit it is very likely that the number will fail modulus checking
    With an FP, either the account exists or it doesn't. If it doesn't, the transfer will fail when it's attempted and the money will not be sent, it'll just be credited straight back to the sending account.
    "It will take, five, 10, 15 years to get back to where we need to be. But it's no longer the individual banks that are in the wrong, it's the banking industry as a whole." - Steven Cooper, head of personal and business banking at Barclays, talking to Martin Lewis
  • annie42
    annie42 Posts: 213 Forumite
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    Thanks I'llcheck if the account exists.
  • fort
    fort Posts: 26 Forumite
    Surely the payment transfer should have failed due to the account name not matching?
  • Gromitt
    Gromitt Posts: 5,063 Forumite
    fort wrote: »
    Surely the payment transfer should have failed due to the account name not matching?

    They don't get the account name, so checking that is not possible.
  • annie42
    annie42 Posts: 213 Forumite
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    Barclays contacted the recipient of the funds who has spent it. He has however agreed to repay and Barclays have set up two standing orders to leave his account in January and February. Hopefully the matter will be resolved.
  • stclair
    stclair Posts: 6,853 Forumite
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    edited 26 December 2012 at 1:31PM
    annie42 wrote: »
    Thanks I'llcheck if the account exists.

    Did the account exist according to the website?

    Has a complaint been raised if the bank was at fault?
    Im an ex employee RBS Group
    However Any Opinion Given On MSE Is Strictly My Own
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