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Fathertedy wrote: »Who really does not agree with them when they say "the recession, joblessness and instability you see right now is only the first stage of it. Many people think the slump we’re in now is as bad as it will get.But the truth is, it’s only the start."I know the perma prop bulls who continually ramp house prices on here keep saying green shoots and recovery. The worst is behind us they say, but only a fool would believe them.Moneyweek are on the ball, here the recession, joblessness and instability you see right now is only the first stage of it.[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The next phase in this crisis could threaten our very way of life.[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The truth is, it’s only the start.[/FONT]
Welcome new user
I find it interesting that such a new poster to this forum is already utilising phrases such as "perma prop bulls"
Why not stick to your original logon?
Some might think your a joker
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=53809765&postcount=41
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=54598181&postcount=25
Or someone who like playing with their gun
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=57396925&postcount=24
Or their teddy
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=57538555&postcount=131
or AliMcLeod (a new user who's deleted all their posts)
http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=57430741&postcount=7
Or all of the above
Interesting it's all newish users (or variations) which seems to use the terminlogy "perma prop bull":wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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The first two paragraphs portray the benefits of BTL compared to precious metals.IveSeenTheLight wrote: »Sorry, I'm confused Generali.
First two paragraphs seem to portray the benefits of investing in rental property.
Third paragraph seems to infer BTL is not a good deal
The third paragraph infers that BTL is not a good deal compared to the full range of investments.
No contradiction - the overall inference is that BTL is bad (or sub-par), but metals are worse.0 -
Bear Market in real terms.......Fathertedy wrote: »Gen has always been a little bearish about property. I remember you saying you have to admit property is in a bear market in real terms.
Surely this is subjective to the particular properties invested in.
Surely this also depends on when the property was bought.
Surely consideration must also be made to the rental profits achieved on said property (**NOTE** Rental profit could be considerably up in "real" terms when you consider mortgage rates are down and rents are also up;)):wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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Imagine that you have piercing foresight and you are convinced that we will see hyperinflation and rapidly rising interest rates at some point in the near but indeterminate future. Do you?
A) Ensure that you own the asset that you live in and take out one of the absurdly cheap long term fixed rate mortgages that are available.
PANIC! SELL EVERYTHING! BUY GOLD! 0 -
The first two paragraphs portray the benefits of BTL compared to precious metals.
The third paragraph infers that BTL is not a good deal compared to the full range of investments.
No contradiction - the overall inference is that BTL is bad (or sub-par), but metals are worse.
Sure there may be better investments out there.
My experience of shares is not a positive one.
I see pension linked shares not returning the once envisaged returns.
I also have seen my property investments provide an excellent return on my invested amount as well as seeing modest HPI growth (in value)
BTL may not be the most dynamic investment but it can give a very good steady return / safe equity investment.:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
:wall:0 -
Imagine that you have piercing foresight and you are convinced that we will see hyperinflation and rapidly rising interest rates at some point in the near but indeterminate future. Do you?
A) Ensure that you own the asset that you live in and take out one of the absurdly cheap long term fixed rate mortgages that are available. PANIC! SELL EVERYTHING! BUY GOLD!
Can I choose C)
Try to benefit from the hyperinflation by extending ones portfolio (of course whilst fixing the rates long term)
Incidently I see that the lowest ever 5 year fix is being marketed by the Co-Op:wall:
What we've got here is....... failure to communicate.
Some men you just can't reach.
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Fathertedy wrote: »'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0
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Fathertedy wrote: »Who really does not agree with them when they say "the recession, joblessness and instability you see right now is only the first stage of it. Many people think the slump we’re in now is as bad as it will get.But the truth is, it’s only the start."
I know the perma prop bulls who continually ramp house prices on here keep saying green shoots and recovery. The worst is behind us they say, but only a fool would believe them.
Moneyweek are on the ball, here the recession, joblessness and instability you see right now is only the first stage of it.
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The next phase in this crisis could threaten our very way of life.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]The truth is, it’s only the start.[/FONT]
Only a fool will think they can fortell the future, Moneyweek are no fools they have many futures (and pasts), reminds me of the Groucho Marx line
“Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.”'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
Fathertedy wrote: »Is that right
beat me to it !
http://www.moneyweek.com/investments/property/us-housing-its-not-a-bubbleUS housing: it's not a bubble - Moneyweek Dec 12, 20050 -
Kennyboy66 wrote: »'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0
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