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10b more welfare cuts on the way.

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  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    They are doing something positive -- trying to reduce the deficit, making cuts, getting a bit tougher with the EU, scaling back on immigration -- and you don't like it. "The medicine doesn't taste very nice so let's stop taking it."

    The medicine isn't working. It is having little effect. What little they do do merely upsets the apple cart, which will cost more to fix.

    Taking some real action on the EU and immigration would set them apart. In reality they no they are powerless, just like the last lot, to do either. They need to grow some an stop promenading.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • Taking some real action on the EU and immigration would set them apart. In reality they no they are powerless, just like the last lot, to do either. They need to grow some an stop promenading.

    Doing something radical about the EU and immigration is very difficult with the LibDem bucket of sand around their necks. The LibDems policy on these things (as with many other things) is virtually indistinguishable from Labour's.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • coastline wrote: »
    but we're talking about the 1970's...the Tories had bother which is no different to anyone else in power....runs on the pound...inflation...banking crisis...all of this before the next Labour government which you blame.

    I'm talking about the 21st century, the 70s reference was just an aside to show how serially incompetent Labour is. Once again by 2010 they had effectively run out of money because they cannot manage public finances -- never have, never will.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • grizzly1911
    grizzly1911 Posts: 9,965 Forumite
    Doing something radical about the EU and immigration is very difficult with the LibDem bucket of sand around their necks. The LibDems policy on these things (as with many other things) is virtually indistinguishable from Labour's.

    They are happy to disregard the DimLebs as they see fit. On these issues they seem happy to use them as a shield.:think:

    Thats politics.
    "If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....

    "big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham
  • They are happy to disregard the DimLebs as they see fit. On these issues they seem happy to use them as a shield.:think:

    Thats politics.

    If people want a harder line on the EU, immigration, criminal justice, welfare, dumbing down of education, public sector profligacy, the human rights farce etc they have to vote in a Conservative government with a clear majority. If it shows itself to be spineless and ineffectual, without the excuse of the LibDem bucket of sand to fall back on, then it deserves to be kicked out the next time. But if they vote in Labour, or a Labour/LibDem coalition, there is no chance to get anything done about any of these things, because neither of those parties believe in it.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • BertieUK
    BertieUK Posts: 1,701 Forumite
    Tut tut.. Incompetence .. Thats a comment that is so familiar that it could be said that for many decades the Conservative Party have been the Team Leaders in incompitence.
  • BertieUK wrote: »
    Tut tut.. Incompetence .. Thats a comment that is so familiar that it could be said that for many decades the Conservative Party have been the Team Leaders in incompitence.


    Depends what competencies you are looking for as the priorities. For me, and I think generally accepted, are firstly protection of the citizens, and secondly sound management of the public purse. I think Labour's record on the second speaks for itself and anyone not accepting that is frankly in denial. On the second we have had misguided, do-gooding criminal justice policies, together with the Human Right Act which allows illegal immigrant terrorists, officially described as dangerous, to walk our streets. The Lib Dems are doing a good job of preventing these things being changed. But if your definition of competent is different and these things do not matter to you, then you might prefer Labour's version of "competent" (although I've looked for it and can't find it).
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • BertieUK
    BertieUK Posts: 1,701 Forumite
    George I wish to see my country being Governed by a compitent Government for my remaining time on this planet. I can only reflect on my lifetime being governed by fat cats who were only interested in lining their own pockets, at the countries expence. Some of them banking their profits abroad to escape paying taxation, and one of them was a relative of a present day member of your party.

    The rot starts at the top like an inverted triangle and we have to try and close these loopholes that have been popping up far to regularly in these past few years.
  • BertieUK wrote: »
    I can only reflect on my lifetime being governed by fat cats who were only interested in lining their own pockets, at the countries expence.

    Like the Blair Rich Project ? Do you really believe that voting Labour in makes any difference to this sort of thing ? Or does it just make you feel better because like millions of others you still see them as the "party of the workers" ? Actually they are more the party of the non-workers.
    No-one would remember the Good Samaritan if he'd only had good intentions. He had money as well.

    The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

    Margaret Thatcher
  • BertieUK
    BertieUK Posts: 1,701 Forumite
    In this world George, it is very dangerous to assume who one votes for.

    Speaking of the Labour party Ramsay MacDonald who became the first Labour Prime Minister, the first from a working-class background and one of the very few without a university education, to speak for the people or the working classy, I bet that upset the Barons.

    You are a party of great intellectuals and its a great pity you cannot see past always blaming others rather than using your education in favour of our country and putting the Great back into Great Britain.
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