People not councils will beat new housing rules

whalster

Yes just to clarify , it would be to move into the social housing sector , FireFox I am not here to make a judgment on the rights and wrongs of jumping the social housing ladder It is better to deal with what is infront of you at the time
I know she is entitled to LHA however I have nothing coming available and I talk with a lot of local landlords and they rarely have anything either, for her to try and gain a tenancy through a letting agent would be impossible , from a fees and ignorance ( on their part)point of view, they do not look at the private rented sector as a whole and in their minds just try to cherry pick a very narrow range of people ,one more thing that does not benefit the owners of the property on who’s behalf they are supposed to be working
I do think the social worker is doing what she thinks is best , I have worked with organizations like this for a long time and I don’t get many problems at all however I get as many from professional people in 4 bed houses as I do from single mothers in one bedroom flats that are now not large enough

lighting_up_the_chalice

I stand corrected and withdraw my earlier comments.

Your tenant is a young, first time mum with a new baby who has recently left the care system but still requires the support of social services. Clearly, the support and security offered by Social Housing is the most appropriate way for her to start life with her new family.

At the same time, you, as a LL, are keen to protect your asset from the damage that may be caused by having a young child in a property intended for single people/couples.

Personally, I would get the notice served, give the housing provider an accurate reference when they enquire and move on.

I appreciate this may appear to contradict my earlier post, but my opinion was changed when the comments of the SW were clarified.

Fire_Fox

'Queue jumping' into social housing gives other young single parents a bad name and you have enabled cheating the system. The system is not unfair, she wasn't homeless, she wasn't in a single room as some are, she obviously had a kindly landlord. Plenty of people live in less than ideal accommodation for many years, many more use contraception. No idea why you posted this thread here, it was bound to get backs up.

gerkin

Perhaps decide to have a baby when you can afford a big house and not try and take advantage of the generous state.

But that is an entirely another matter to debate and belongs to a different thread.

lighting_up_the_chalice

gerkin wrote: »

Perhaps decide to have a baby when you can afford a big house and not try and take advantage of the generous state.

But that is an entirely another matter to debate and belongs to a different thread.

I think if everyone only had children when they could afford them, the human race would last another 3 generations at best. Realistically, very few can afford children and the VAST majority are given assistance from the public purse to some extent.

Fire_Fox

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

I think if everyone only had children when they could afford them, the human race would last another 3 generations at best. Realistically, very few can afford children and the VAST majority are given assistance from the public purse to some extent.

Vast majority in the UK or worldwide? The human species survived - indeed thrived - for millions of years before a few Western countries introduced the welfare state!! :rotfl: If everyone in this country quit smoking and junk food tomorrow those households - many of which are low income - would be instantly more comfortable. Over time the NHS bill would drop substantially. We'd lose a few jobs in the process, but other businesses would take their place because the nation would have more disposable income and more energy to participate in healthier leisure activities, or make babies ....

lighting_up_the_chalice

Fire_Fox wrote: »

Vast majority in the UK or worldwide? The human species survived - indeed thrived - for millions of years before a few Western countries introduced the welfare state!! :rotfl: If everyone in this country quit smoking and junk food tomorrow those households - many of which are low income - would be instantly more comfortable. Over time the NHS bill would drop substantially. We'd lose a few jobs in the process, but other businesses would take their place because the nation would have more disposable income and more energy to participate in healthier leisure activities, or make babies ....

I meant worldwide. It would probably impact the poorest countries hardest and first.

gerkin

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

I meant worldwide. It would probably impact the poorest countries hardest and first.

There is no welfare state in India but it still is the second most populous country. So your theory is flawed. The fact is, in this country the politicians have used state benefits as a weapon in elections to gain votes and made the disadvantaged think they do not have to worry about affordability since the state is there just for them.

lighting_up_the_chalice

gerkin wrote: »

There is no welfare state in India but it still is the second most populous country. So your theory is flawed. The fact is, in this country the politicians have used state benefits as a weapon in elections to gain votes and made the disadvantaged think they do not have to worry about affordability since the state is there just for them.

And infant mortality rates in India are far higher than in the West..... wonder why?

Then there is foreign aid to factor in, Government funded research and development of cures/treatments for child related diseases, the wealth/employment generated by all those kids toys made overseas.... etc etc etc.

Madjock

lighting_up_the_chalice wrote: »

No she wouldn't.

As soon as the child was born, she would no longer be liable for the bedroom tax if she was in a 2 bed Social Housing property.

Don't try to tell your granny how to suck eggs. I work in social housing.

From Shelter's website:
The amount of space in each room
Rooms that are counted include living rooms, bedrooms and large kitchens. For the space and floor area calculations:

children under one year old are ignored

Linky: http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/repairs_and_bad_conditions/home_safety/overcrowding