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So long clamper

zaax
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The day has finally arrived - with effect from midnight last night clamping on private land in England will be a criminal offence punishable by an unlimited fine - the clamper, his employers and the landowner are all jointly liable as co-conspirators.
PPCs will also have to operate under a new regime, where in order to have access to DVLA keeper details they need to comply with very strict DfT guidelines, and abide by a new statutory independent appeals body. The DVLA have already shown willing to enforce the new guidelines by revoking two PPCs rights to access data for 90 days due to making false claims about registered keeper liability. They have also written to the BPA and demanded that all operators carry out an independent audit of their signs to ensure that the comply with the DfT guidlines within 7 days or face loss of access to DVLA data.
It is fair to say the the PPC industry who were expecting the new rules to make their lives easier are having a rude awakening and there is, I hear, deep unhappiness in the industry about how things have panned aout.
The new DfT guidlines are quite stringent, limiting charges to a genuine pre-estimate of the landowners losses (which will be 0 in most cases), a £32 charge for any appeal a motorist raises (win or lose) and the appeals will be non binding on motorists (but binding on the PPC) meaning that after the appeal they would still have to go to court to enforce any win - facing all the difficulties they currently face - a recent example saw a PPC landed with a £4000 legal bill to recover £4.50 in losses.
And they also still have VCS vs HMRC which says they have no legal standing to recover landowners losses to contend with.
Note that there is no sign of an enactment order for Wales, so it is unclear if the clamping ban extends to Wales.
These provisions do not apply to Scotland where clamping has been a criminal offence punishable by up to 15 years in prison for over a decade - and PPC charges continue to lack any legal standing.
PPCs will also have to operate under a new regime, where in order to have access to DVLA keeper details they need to comply with very strict DfT guidelines, and abide by a new statutory independent appeals body. The DVLA have already shown willing to enforce the new guidelines by revoking two PPCs rights to access data for 90 days due to making false claims about registered keeper liability. They have also written to the BPA and demanded that all operators carry out an independent audit of their signs to ensure that the comply with the DfT guidlines within 7 days or face loss of access to DVLA data.
It is fair to say the the PPC industry who were expecting the new rules to make their lives easier are having a rude awakening and there is, I hear, deep unhappiness in the industry about how things have panned aout.
The new DfT guidlines are quite stringent, limiting charges to a genuine pre-estimate of the landowners losses (which will be 0 in most cases), a £32 charge for any appeal a motorist raises (win or lose) and the appeals will be non binding on motorists (but binding on the PPC) meaning that after the appeal they would still have to go to court to enforce any win - facing all the difficulties they currently face - a recent example saw a PPC landed with a £4000 legal bill to recover £4.50 in losses.
And they also still have VCS vs HMRC which says they have no legal standing to recover landowners losses to contend with.
Note that there is no sign of an enactment order for Wales, so it is unclear if the clamping ban extends to Wales.
These provisions do not apply to Scotland where clamping has been a criminal offence punishable by up to 15 years in prison for over a decade - and PPC charges continue to lack any legal standing.
Do you want your money back, and a bit more, search for 'money claim online' - They don't like it up 'em Captain Mainwaring
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Ermmn... ?0
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Where have you been for the last few weeks? The ban came into force on October 1st.What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?0
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:rotfl:He put his clocks back by a month not an hour.:rotfl:I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.0
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In other news just in, Queen Victoria has died.Je Suis Cecil.0
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The day has finally arrived - with effect from midnight last night clamping on private land in England will be a criminal offence punishable by an unlimited fine - the clamper, his employers and the landowner are all jointly liable as co-conspirators.
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Obviously it's Doc Brown in a DeLorean that can no longer be clamped lolExcel Parking, MET Parking, Combined Parking Solutions, VP Parking Solutions, ANPR PC Ltd, & Roxburghe Debt Collectors. What do they all have in common?
They are all or have been suspended from accessing the DVLA database for gross misconduct!
Do you really need to ask what kind of people run parking companies?0 -
Your a bit behind the event kid, the PoF Act cam into effect 1st October. What on earth made you think it was going to occur on 18th November? Did you not see the sticky banner at the top of the thread index ? The one under the NEW THREAD button you clicked that goes
Announcement:New regulations came into force 1 October 201203-10-2012 MSE Andrea (Forum Editorial Liaison)0 -
Note that there is no sign of an enactment order for Wales, so it is unclear if the clamping ban extends to Wales.
Herewith a commencement Order for England AND Wales.
Confirms Sections relating to clamping/towing/parking commenced on 1st October 2012
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2012/2075/made0 -
I suspect the OP is maybe confusing this issue with the MOT exemptions for pre 1960 vehicles - which came into effect yesterday?? https://www.gov.uk/getting-an-mot/vehicles-exempt-from-mot0
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