Dogs knock over my mother, broken arm, what can I do.

moggymutt

We are all going to have to have 3rd party liability for ourselves in case we so much as bump into another person in a doorway soon, unless we can draw a line somewhere.

geri1965_2

moggymutt wrote: »

We are all going to have to have 3rd party liability for ourselves in case we so much as bump into another person in a doorway soon, unless we can draw a line somewhere.

I have actually dealt with such a claim, a lady coming out of a shop bumped into another lady on the pavement and knocked her over.

If you have household contents insurance then it does cover your personal liability.

tango

geri1965 wrote: »

I have actually dealt with such a claim, a lady coming out of a shop bumped into another lady on the pavement and knocked her over.

If you have household contents insurance then it does cover your personal liability.

Gordon bennett...next we will be claiming if someone comes out a shop door and sneezes over someone else and they catch a cold ...

art_for_arts_sake

Jaynne wrote: »

Does your dog ever go off the lead? Sounds like you are just !!!!ed off with irresponsible dog owners which is completely understandable. I've been knocked down by dogs on a couple of occasions as a kids and its just one of those things - I've also been knocked over by kids and not been put off them.

If you want to keep your child 100% safe don't let them out of your house however generations of kids having been getting on with life after being knocked on their bums by dogs, falling out of trees and breaking limbs. Most just get on with life and eventually get over their fear of dogs/trees/kids etc.

I keep my dog on an extendable lead for exercise which is shortened in the presence of other amenity users who may wish not to have their enjoyment spoilt by my dog.

Sadly my son's phobia has had a profound effect on his independence, which has not been able to be resolved by qualified professionals dealing with phobias. Unless you are qualified in dealing with such issues you will have no idea of how distressing this is for the severely phobic, not to mention dangerous, as they may actually put themelves at risk to avoid what they feel threatened by.

Jaynne

art_for_arts_sake wrote: »

Sadly my son's phobia has had a profound effect on his independence, which has not been able to be resolved by qualified professionals dealing with phobias. Unless you are qualified in dealing with such issues you will have no idea of how distressing this is for the severely phobic, not to mention dangerous, as they may actually put themelves at risk to avoid what they feel threatened by.

I'm sorry about that - do you not think though that if it wasn't a dog that your son would have developed a phobia of something else. After all it sounds pretty serious if you've had to see a professional. Most people don't react that way to an adverse incident so it seems at least possible that it was something waiting to happen.

Our dog - well I say ours she's actually a trainee guide dog - is very excitable in a friendly way meeting other people. Now she's in training so needs a good recall otherwise she won't make it as a GD. On off lead walks at the moment as she's just starting she gets recalled when I see other people and especially other dogs but she's certainly not 100% and while she doesn't tend to jump at people unless they bend down and try to pet her. Could the OPs incident have happened to us - yes certainly and I'd feel terrible if it did and do what I could to make amends but it would be an accident and I'd be doing all I could to avoid it.

I have experience of the other side of the coin being knocked off a bike by an excitable dog and while its annoying these things happen. If life wasn't unpredictable it would be boring as hell.

catkins

art_for_arts_sake wrote: »

I keep my dog on an extendable lead for exercise which is shortened in the presence of other amenity users who may wish not to have their enjoyment spoilt by my dog.

Sadly my son's phobia has had a profound effect on his independence, which has not been able to be resolved by qualified professionals dealing with phobias. Unless you are qualified in dealing with such issues you will have no idea of how distressing this is for the severely phobic, not to mention dangerous, as they may actually put themelves at risk to avoid what they feel threatened by.

Exercise on an extendable lead is not really enough for most dogs though. Also most dogs like to play with other dogs and they can't do that on an extendable either.

KxMx

Jaynne wrote: »

I'm sorry about that - do you not think though that if it wasn't a dog that your son would have developed a phobia of something else. After all it sounds pretty serious if you've had to see a professional. Most people don't react that way to an adverse incident so it seems at least possible that it was something waiting to happen.

Well my Mum was attacked on the family farm as a 5yo by the giant, mean goose (her fault because she forgot to pick up the stick there for that very purpose upon entering the paddock) and this has left her with a life long fear of birds. Even a blackbird taking off freaks her out and something like a pigeon walking near her feet she finds difficult. Sometimes she moves away to avoid said pigeon and other times she doesn't want to in case it "flaps" and takes off (the large Goose obviously flapped his rather large wings at her). She is an intelligent, grown woman who can sit there and rationalise that the pigeon is not going to hurt her, but it does not stop her being reminded of that bad experience. And at times I see the anxiety in her face, even 50 years after the incident. Unlike OP's son who understandably is still being affected by the incident and hasn't perhaps reached that point where he can rationalise things with an adult's mind.

Maybe "most people" do not react that way but it is children and not adults we are talking about. I don't think you can underestimate the negative effect things like this have on children and just how long it can last.

I think having a large animal approaching a child in a negative way is only going to have one outcome. Living on a farm my Mum was quite used to animals much bigger than the goose, and still fine with them, but then they didn't attack her did they.

I am going to say here shame on you for suggesting this posters son might have been open to a serious phobia happening anyway. You really have no idea what you are talking about unless you went through similar as a child or live closely to someone who did.

If there is ever an example of "dogs can do no wrong" then there it is.

Jaynne wrote: »

I have experience of the other side of the coin being knocked off a bike by an excitable dog and while its annoying these things happen. If life wasn't unpredictable it would be boring as hell.

All well and good but I am sure OP's mum would rather not have broken her arm after being knocked over by dogs just for a bit of excitement! Expect she would have preferred a "boring" day out.

phill99

Loanranger wrote: »

Hardly an enjoyable day for this lady, nor will she enjoy the next 6 weeks while her arm is healing.
This wasn't an accident at all, it was negligence by selfish people who don't give a toss about anyone else and who don't care that others get hurt by their actions.

I bet on the inside you're quite a nice person really.

lostinrates

KxMx wrote: »

Well my Mum was attacked on the family farm as a 5yo by the giant, mean goose (her fault because she forgot to pick up the stick there for that very purpose upon entering the paddock) and this has left her with a life long fear of birds. Even a blackbird taking off freaks her out and something like a pigeon walking near her feet she finds difficult. Sometimes she moves away to avoid said pigeon and other times she doesn't want to in case it "flaps" and takes off (the large Goose obviously flapped his rather large wings at her). She is an intelligent, grown woman who can sit there and rationalise that the pigeon is not going to hurt her, but it does not stop her being reminded of that bad experience. And at times I see the anxiety in her face, even 50 years after the incident. Unlike OP's son who understandably is still being affected by the incident and hasn't perhaps reached that point where he can rationalise things with an adult's mind.

Maybe "most people" do not react that way but it is children and not adults we are talking about. I don't think you can underestimate the negative effect things like this have on children and just how long it can last.

I think having a large animal approaching a child in a negative way is only going to have one outcome. Living on a farm my Mum was quite used to animals much bigger than the goose, and still fine with them, but then they didn't attack her did they.

I am going to say here shame on you for suggesting this posters son might have been open to a serious phobia happening anyway. You really have no idea what you are talking about unless you went through similar as a child or live closely to someone who did.

If there is ever an example of "dogs can do no wrong" then there it is.



All well and good but I am sure OP's mum would rather not have broken her arm after being knocked over by dogs just for a bit of excitement! Expect she would have preferred a "boring" day out.

It is genuinely terribly sad (no snideness, no back handed comment) that people develope life long fears from such incidents. We have geese, and horses and big dogs, and even fairly nervous children end up enjoying the dogs. A fellow MSE user visited with his dog phobic wife and children in the summer, and while his wife was brave but reluctant and stayed back, her children were proud to have stroked a big dog.

Their fears are not cured, of course, they will be wary next time, and all the times inbetween when they see dogs, but I admire their parents for wanting to help them get over it. I don't think any of them had an incident though, I think kthey were just scared. Likewise, some kids give up riding after a fall, where as others cry, and get back on. It seems to be a difference....not a right and wrong necessairly, but just an unfathomable distance.